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[–] 396 points 4 months ago (43 children)

Reminds me of Google glass or whatever it was called. It's not that people aren't ready, it's just a bad idea

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  • [–] 74 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    I used to run a comedy show during this era.

    We straight up kicked those fucks out

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  • [–] 5 points 3 months ago

    I used to support the Glass team at Google. I felt so bad watching them destroy the team after Sergey influence plummeted after he was caught cheating. They just slowly moved everyone to different projects. They had super stars on that team.

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  • [–] 121 points 4 months ago (18 children)

    I love that big tech was so arrogant they just plum forgot or choose to ignore why those died then.

    And then above it they still chose the one thing everyone was mad about, a camera. All they had to do was not put a camera in there but they couldn't resist.

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  • [–] 79 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    I think the product that speaks the most about the camera was the Snapchat Spectacles. Snapchat did everything they could to position it strictly as a fun, party-oriented camera that didn't try to hide what it was but leaned into the fun ways to use it.

    And they still died out after the initial hype. Which I think is most telling because, like, here's this product with the most positive take you could possibly have on "glasses with cameras" and people still didn't want it. So wth makes Google think the creepy no-fun version will catch on?

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    Eh, even the guy in the video mentions the distribution being a factor in the hype dying down. I think with a bigger distribution they could’ve worked better, the main issue with the Meta ones is that they’re basically made to record stuff inconspicuously and that’s freaking creepy.

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  • [–] 30 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    creeps are the #1 target demo for these devices

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    I honestly don't think so. I think they're up there, but tech "enthusiasts" (read, tech bros and people who think random gadgets are cool) probably are. They're happy to waste their money and give money to meta. Creeps are definitely number 2 or 3 though.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 months ago

    Yeah, I'd consider myself a bit of a tech enthusiast but I'd never buy a closed source product like smart glasses. I have looked a little into Mentra glasses as it's open source and it looks like you might be able to stand up your own backend.

    It would in no way be an everyday wear for me though. I'd probably only ever wear it for outdoor activities. But honestly a GoPro or equivalent with a harness would probably be a better option for that.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    They used to say that porn was the real driver of technology for home video.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 months ago

    Not for the first time. Metaverse failed for all the same reasons that Second Life did: it's a solution to a problem that most people don't have. Except Second Life - which still exists and supposedly is far more active than during its heyday - only cost the merest fraction compared to the Metaverse.

    As for the Spybans, there were a couple of short films released around 2010 that predicted the privacy issues linking AR with realtime social networking would bring. So it's not a new idea. Unfortunately, both films were taken down soon after because they were deemed too disturbing.

    And yet, here we are.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago

    The trouble is, half the cool shit that AR can do requires some sort of optical sensor to pull off. If you want it to be anything more than just a smaller cell phone closer to your eye.

    And if course they were compelled to hook it up to their mass surveillance network...

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  • [–] 66 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    It's annoying how tech bros phrase products and services so that you don't get to say no, it's something like not right now or people aren't ready. Lots of stuff from pop ups for OneDrive in windows to press releases about Google glass. It's fascist.

    No your product or service is unwanted and no means no.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 months ago

    For consumers yes, but an AR glasses for technical workers that (for example with an electrician), you could mark and highlight cables in AR that you are working on/ignoring or being able to auto search and send IC identifications on reverse engineering a PCB would be genuinely useful.

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  • [–] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    True AR? Absolutely not a bad idea, are you kidding me?

    Take out the ability to record stealthily and they’re a great idea. Overlay art on walls, place monitors in your real space, do work on a laptop with the screen off, put directions in the actual world so you’re not looking at a screen, and that just what I can think of off the top of my head.

    Don’t let the tech conglomerates ruin an amazing tech concept.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    These do exist and they are pretty amazing apparently.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago

    Their form factor still isn’t great from what I understand. The tech isn’t properly caught up to the idea. But once it has, it’s going to be a paradigm shift in the way we interact with the digital world similar to the smart phone.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 months ago

    Vision Pro is as close as we have come, and it is still overpriced, ugly, uncomfortable, and incapable of most basic AR tasks. It can’t identify and track objects in real time, which is the lowest bar for functional AR.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    The problem with Google Glass is that had a form factor which limited what could be done. On top of that it was a beta product and you technically needed to be a developer with I think C language knowledge to be allowed to purchase one. Even if you could buy it the device was like $1,000+ because it wasn’t a consumer ready model.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Yeah the idea was so bad Apple stopped developing future Apple Vision products and pivoted to release an affordable alternative.

    This thread seems to have a whole lot of hopefulness and not much actual data they are going off. If Apple actually launches a good usable pair for a decent price, it will all become "I wish manufacturers never made these" and people yelling pervert at someone on the street will result in them getting sued/arrested/baker acted.

    It's been 12 years since glass went public, I have to imagine someone figured out decent ways to work the upgrades in hardware since into them.

    2013 version: 45nm Chip made by Texas instruments.

    Any chip from 2026/7 will run laps around it

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  • [–] 217 points 4 months ago (25 children)

    Cities should be just as afraid of deploying Flock cameras.

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  • [–] 76 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    Did you know tubing cutters are cheap, portable, and silent in their operation?

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    The cameras have copper in them too. Probably.

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  • [–] 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    Thats what i keep hearing. I bet they have cameras and maybe sim cards too. Along with a spiffy solar panel.

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  • [–] 13 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Attaching to this to remind everyone that these cameras have sensors to scrape rfid, nfc, tpms, Bluetooth, and wifi ssids as well. They're not 'license plate readers'. They're full suite surveillance systems that'll capture every ID passing by. Your list of remembered wifi connections in your phone is a trackable fingerprint, and unless you take steps, it's being broadcast every time you turn on wifi.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 months ago

    Your phone is not broadcasting a list of WiFi networks it wants to connect to. That's not how it works at all.

    It is periodically (couple of times a second probably) checking the available SSIDs to see if there is one that matches a remembered network on it's list.

    It would be horribly insecure to have a device broadcasting the name of a network that it would actively try to connect to.

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  • [+] -17 points 4 months ago (13 children)

    Unfortunately, this has a habit of becoming a self-reinforcing need for authoritarian policing.

    "Flock camera destruction" becomes the rationale for more cameras and more cops and more draconian punishments. And this cycle continues so long as the public continues to send up corporate shills and industry hacks to fill the municipal offices.

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  • [–] 51 points 4 months ago (12 children)

    Oh good to know. I guess we’ll just have to stick with the alternative. Do nothing and watch it happen anyway.

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  • [–] 20 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    No, you have to go after the local politicians who keep approving these systems. Electorally of course, you psychos. Your local city council rep is going to feel much more pressure from an angry letter from a voter than your senator would.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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    This is probably one of the few issues you could really get grass roots bipartisan support on these days. It would have to be marketed right though. Maybe something like "DEI cameras", or "6G posts".

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    Ignore the vote! If we don't vote, it delegitimizes the election and then the local government will be forced to ignore everyone that stayed home and still do the awful thing anyway because the winner is an open fascist.

    Much better alternative!

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  • [–] 1 point 3 months ago (1 child)

    Or you could try to make ACTUAL change, instead of throwing temper tantrums like a child and encouraging others to get themselves in legal trouble that would affect the rest of their lives.

    How many have you destroyed? Let me guess. Zero. Another internet tough guy who others to take the hit.

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  • [+] -22 points 4 months ago (1 child)

    Sure, but this is an international thing, Flock is US only. And it's completely expected to see comments about something US specific written like it's a global thing (or that nothing outside the US exists) because that's fucking always the case.
    The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can't comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn't the US.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

    The 'Murica brain, like yours, just can't comprehend that the vast majority of the world isn't the US.

    Your comment says way more about you than you comprehend and your assumptions about all Americans are laughable. Having a bad day, are we? Maybe you should call your mum.

    You should fly yourself and your asshole attitude back to Reddit, find the rest of your miserable flock and claim victory, that is if they don't ignore your sorry ass there too.

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