nice. i'm planning on leaving the apple ecosystem and getting a pixel with graphene os, though this looks nice. maybe it'll become more popular in the future
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Instead of using the adblocker app you could in theory modify hosts file in the /etc directory
@thelinuxexperiment yes that slow gallery app is there for some time, nobody was able to reproduce this bug, if you have some info you can comment my old issue gitlab.com/ubports/development
hi Nick, Linux on Smartphones have always been an unknown area for me, distros are way more different from one another that they are on desktop so itβs nice to see you covering ithope the Mobile Linux Experiment continues :)
@thelinuxexperiment What's the point to have linuxphone without flathub?
Thanks for the review.Looks like Ubuntu Touch is still more painful than Mobian Phosh. Mobian Phosh has access to all Linux desktop apps, many of which redraw for the phone screen, such as Nextcloud Sync app and Lollypop music app.
@thelinuxexperiment Thanks for giving UT a real try. It should be said in honesty, that North Amercian users can have another difficulty. Due to a difference in how NA mobile providers work, MMS may not work. And settings may need changing to get mobile internet working. EU users will have a better time due to standardization there.But even with that, I still love Lomiri (the UI) to pieces. Esp the top panel. W/ practice, you can get to a setting so fast.Tho, yes, change the back button.
It was a really nice video!I guess I'll be on a Linux phone once I start having more disposable income for such side projects in 2029.I'm lucky enough to be forced to have a professional iPhone (not paid by me) so the banking apps will probably stay on this one.
Looks like Ubuntu Touch is pretty limiting. I am daily driving PureOS and use Mobian for testing, both with Phosh and it works pretty well. Not as well as a real desktop, but most apps from desktop just work. Sudo apt install, Flatpaks etc or using native Firefox/LibreWolf or the desktop file manager ... it just works. The best of all? They are no smartphones, but pocketcomputers (computers that can also do phone stuff). I also saw people using PostmarketOS, Fedora and KDE Plasma Mobile, sxmo and alike. Pocketcomputers are so cool, all the freedom of desktop Linux on your phone device.
@thelinuxexperiment Great video. ThxI also tried out Ubuntu Touch on a 2 phone once, though just on the side. At the time, I was taking the train a lot and couldn't find a powerful app for train schedules. And you can forget about Waydroid on the GS 290βit's just not powerful enough for that.
You could usw Syncthng to sync your photos to another device https://open-store.io/app/syncthing.syncthing
@thelinuxexperiment I was so happy to see a video giving a Linux phone a real, solid test. There are a million where they just open the interface and all the comments are about that, but it completely misses the more important issues like what's reliable, what doesn't work etc. That said, I was surprised you went with Ubuntu Touch rather than something like Mobian+Phoshon an FLX1 or similar.
Really good to see more Linux on phones and awesome you're sticking with it, it is my dream as well, sometime in the future! I have a OnePlus 6T where I once or twice a year try to see whether it could be a daily driver with PostmarketOS but so far I can't even make phone calls reliably, so I think it's gonna be a while before I'll be able to complete this type of challenge, haha! Some day...
Nice! Got some more apps to look for :)
A browser advice: choose Angelfish if it's available. For me it was the most stable, no-fuss, no-issue browser for day-to-day need.
Tldw: He mentions the new beta version of Ubuntu touch solved many problems. And he's going to use it as a daily driver going forward.
The problems he had were banking apps, photo sync, copy-paste from waydroid to Ubuntu touch, and notifications between waydroid and Ubuntu touch. He shows the waydroid to/from Linux works in KDE. So, probably a relatively quick fix for those 2 problems.
Edit: spelling.
Donβt banks have websites he can log into?
Banks that are platform-agnostic should be favoured by the linux enthusiasts.
Do you know of any banks that are platform agnostic? I don't think it's a matter of the banks choosing to exclude other operating systems as much as a matter of internal resources to develop and maintain a secure app on an OS few of their users would use.
If you know of any banks that have apps that work on a Linux phone I think that'd be a great list to start and pin to the community.
The compatible list would be like GrapheneOS's right? Apps that'll work with MicroG without the full Google Play service. Both banking apps I use do. Only one of those two banks will let me login without the app however, the desktop website forces use of their app as an authenticator.
edit: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/
This is so fucked up to read. Maybe we should all start going back to analog life for about 2 years. For the time it takes for a phone to become obsolete in features, we should just all decide to go back to analog life. Imagine how many stocks would plummet.
Apps no but the web pages should be platform agnostic. I mean I have by far not used every bank but all that I have tested work fine on Linux.
As a Norwegian Iβm required to use an app called BankID to log into various government services and banks. And that one does not run on Β«non secureΒ» OSes
Although that might change with the whole EU pushing for open source etc
Both Bank-ID and Vipps works great on eOS. As does Bulder and Nordnet. The only one I need website for is DNB.
But yeah, the biggest problem with Linux phones are defiantly Bank-ID. Closely followed by Vipps.
I would assume so, and that was my thought too, but I don't know for certain (just know what he says in the video).
In Finland bank apps are used as a form of digital ID / strong 2FA. You are pretty much forced to have it
I believe he did mention that as well as other options, like having a dedicated second phone for that functionality
All mine do, and as some of their apps don't work on GrapheneOS, my solution has been to add links to their website to my homepage. It's not that big of an inconvenience for me personally
In my country they kinda force you into using their apps since you must use them as 2FA to login..so even if you try to use the website, you're forced to use the freaking app..that many times does not work with custom Roms..I've been jumping around for 2 years, bank to bank app. Once it stops working I open an account at a different one and try to use the App..banking is the one thing that keeps people from leaving Google's Android IMHO
Did he test the camera? A lot of these pmOS ports struggle with having the camera work
Of note, this is Ubuntu Touch, not postmarketOS. The cameras look fine, likely because Volla phones (what he is using) are more open compared to the big brand phones. Plus, I think Ubuntu Touch uses more of the proprietary bits left over from Android while pmOS avoids some of that, so that might be another factor
I've been wondering about wayland notifications. I still have no choice but to use WhatsApp and Outlook, and depending on notifications from those two is really the only thing keeping me stuck on (degoogled) Android.
My work has a super limiting Outlook set-up, I haven't even managed to get it working with Thunderbird. The web app is seemingly intentionally shit, so the android app is really all I've got.
Some people work around this by not using the WhatsApp app on the Linux phone and instead using XMPP and a https://slidge.im transport running on a Pi in the closet. :D
I personally do that to avoid using slow Matrix clients that eat up a lot of resources.
We just need one bank with alternative attestation that uses virtual cards and we're good.
Good video, also reinforces my decision to not install waydroid. I had it on my previous linux phone, and while it worked, it was a memory hog and quite slow. Which on the PPP made it even worse. Speed shouldn't be an issue on my new FP6, but going trough all the trouble to get a linux phone and then installing android seems counterproductive. Ofcourse if you absolutely need an android app, it is better then nothing ofcourse. but ideally you wouldn't need waydroid.
also am i the only one that finds the ubuntu sidebar while "fine" on desktop is even worse on phones? or am i too plasma biased?
It's a good video covering the good and bad.
I would give it a go if I could get my hands on a compatible phone here in Canada.
Should be easy to get one. A couple Pixel phones are supported, for example. I bet you can get one of those.
Just go through the list and note what you like and then see what is readily available. :D
I remember the attempt at that. Wasn't there supposed to be a KDE MOBILE?
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