Reminder that slavery is still legal in the US, if theworker is incarcerated.
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As the law requires US military gear to be made in the USA ... guess who gets to make it as repetitive cheapest bidder ?
Seems like the USA is really more like Sparta than maybe it wants to admit.
They're trying to build a prison for you and me to live in
$11b worth of goods and services sounds like a lot, except that there are at least 1 million people locked up. Even if they don't have to pay the prisoners for their labour, the cost of keeping them locked up is much, much higher than the value of any labour they perform.
Yeah.. according to the stats in this post, about 1.9 million people are behind bars.
11 billion a year between 1.9 million prisioners is about 6k per year per prisoner.
So that's about $500 a month per prisoner. Which is not as big of a number.. and according to the article, the prisoners still get paid a fraction of it.. it's just that 80% is used "for room and board, court costs, restitution and other fees, including the construction and maintenance of prisons".
What is your point? that China is more free than known fascist state Portugal and the UK?
Neat to see where China sits in this list, despite not being in Nato.
Kinda has an interesting perspective.
China is a dictatorship of the proletariat, incarceration rates need to be understood by the class in control of the state.
China is not a founding NATO country
lmao you people are the worst hypocrites ever , no matter what the west does you'll just turn around and say WHATABOUT CHINA !!
Used to be that China was on par in that regard say... 10? 15 years ago? I remember seeing a comparison, it was more neck at neck, but I think they reduced it and the US massively increased it, so it's high but not US high.
Similarly something about military spending; same US ballooning in the past few decades.
I used to joke that reagen spent the ussr to death (I've learned a titch more about that era of history since then, as i really didn't remember politics beyond SNL at that age) and now I'm feeling the same squeeze from China.
Russia solved this problem
Their incarceration rate is still quite high at 197
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate
Should be even less today. Today it's about 210
rbc.ru/rbcnews/society/04/03/2026/69a813889a794753b3684625
If you include probation and parole, you don't even need to limit it to NATO nations. It's 300% bigger than anything else. It's over 300% bigger than the Soviet GULAG system at its height and they were holding Nazis in there.
Edit: downvoters just hate my instance I guess
Well you can't hold Americans in bulk without getting a few Nazis by accident.
Or without turning some into Nazis. Gangs are prevalent in high-security prisons and often these gangs are racially segregated with the white ones being neo-Nazis. If you're placed in one of these prisons as a white guy your only options may be either to stay unaffiliated and be outcast and vulnerable to attacks by other prisoners, or join the neo-Nazi gang for protection. It's fucked up.
I've known a few people who had to do that who were definitely not nazis.
Its not a good thing to do, but the thing about sitting at the table with Nazis doesn't really count if you're shackled to the table.
Also, not true in every part of the american prison system. Different states differ massively. None of them are pleasant, but like police departments; they all have their local flavor. NYPD doesn't use gas weapons and makes up for it in other ways, Portland fogs the city, Atlanta are all puppyboys the... I want yo say Dakotas? Those cops generally like water cannons and freezing temps. Chicago is pretty up front about just being the toughest gang, their torturers actually trained the cia's guys, and the LAPD likes their guns, their operators, their fire, and sometimes just blowing up a neighborhood to keep subversive elements on our toes.
The prison system is no different. Or rather, as different.
Sure you can. See the pardons.
That's filtering them out, and that's only their favorite most visible Nazis. Some always slip through the cracks cries in judge language
When you compare it to the labour participation rate population of the US the number is almost 1% of the work force. 99 people have normal jobs and 1 of them is a modern slave.
22% of the worlds incarcerated people are held in the US iirc
Fun fact: the American Legion was founded after WWI and was intended to keep returning American veterans from becoming communists. Legionnaires were employed in their Legionnaire uniforms as strike-breakers, until public outcry forced them to stop ... wearing their uniforms while strike-breaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ZsYe5Uwg0
Been this way for a loooooong time
America:Europe::Carthage:Phoenicia
when you have a colonial project eventually you'll make a colony so profitable it will shift the center of your empire. the indigenous collectivist elders i've talked to have generally been of the same mind that Europeans (including Americans) are a young people who refuse wisdom when it is presented to them because like toddlers we refuse to look at the world with open eyes, and instead rely on short term decision making. hopefully as America demonstrates itself to be an empire in decay we can look towards Pan-continental movements (Pan-Americanism, Pan-Africanism, Pan-Europeanism, Pan-Pacifica) to learn how past post colonial societies transitioned from subjugation to collective beneficiallity without creating false hierarchies based on national identity. however, i haven't been impressed with certain groups' ability to look outward for new (to them) wisdom rather than only looking within their local milieu for the same rigid dogmas they already practice, just with a new veneer
someday though, the world must be free and the greatest law of all will come from the land, and not from a hereditary succession of power. there is a 16k year old war against the land. the rich and the powerful convince us that they can win with more power, but the earth itself cannot lose this war. it is unfathomably powerful. to fight against it, as the petrostates do, is folly. only those who fight alongside the land, to protect our water, heritage, and rights, can be on the winning side



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