Any time a group of people is open to anyone joining it's going to get ruined by the awful people using it as an excuse to be awful. Doubly so when the original group of people is emotionally vulnerable and hurt.

Incel, Femcel, doesn't matter. Makes no difference to awful people what they're called if they can get in a group to collectively fantasize about being more awful than they could get way with in real life. I wish the actual people that are hurt can get the help they need to get better.

If violent retribution is one of the paths inceldom leads to, it's not terribly surprising if a femcel group goes the same way. What's that saying? "Hurt people hurt people"?

If the only bond a group of people have is due to the pain they're in, it can easily turn toxic. It's a shame so many people turn toward incel/femcel communities instead of toward groups about shared interests or topics. I get wanting to commiserate with others, but when it becomes a circle jerk of sadness, sticking around can make existing issues so much worse.

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Are we just posting fake greentexts now? The bait isn't good enough so you need to make your own?

Everyone get in here, today we are dividing the working class along gender lines.

I've never met a "femcel" - as in a woman with poor social skills who stays inside and games a lot, perhaps lacking optimism about their romantic prospects and overall destiny - in my life so the whole concept did strike me as weird. Seeing the "femcel" subreddits, twitter pages and Instagram pages, all it reminded me of were the toxic girls from my hometown who essentially scared off new prospects by being so rude to them and CLEARLY chose their lifestyle very early on.

I therefore think femcel is a misnomer. I think generally women aren't getting hung up on men in an incel-ly way - the ones that do skip straight to stalker serial killer lady - I think women are good at socialising and always have some sort of support system.

I don't remember the exact quote and I can't find it, but I recall someone describing a similar problem on 4chan itself. There's a thing that happens, in communities that emphasize edgy humor, to newcomers who don't get the jokes and confuse them for genuine beliefs. Those who find them repulsive leave and don't return, while those who find them tolerable (as genuine beliefs) stick around and have those beliefs normalized and reinforced. Over time, the sincere believers come to outnumber the jokers, and what was once a lighthearted satirical community becomes a cesspool of bona fide extremism.

I don't know if it's a fair analogy; as far as I can remember 4chan was always a cesspool of violence with a flimsy veneer of "it's just a joke bro". But I think it would be unwise to assume something like that couldn't happen in a femcel community.

Oof. That's pretty awful. Best send the nerd boys to me so I can protect them :3

On a more serious note: yikes, that's awful. We're supposed to be better than incels, not their mirror.

I feel like 4chan culture has infested way more of the internet in the current fascist era. The biggest culprit in this shift is Xitter and people's absolute refusal to cut themselves off from the Nazi pedo platform. More normies get caught up in the bullshit, and a broader array of people have a toxic niche built specifically for them.

As people feel more scared and threatened, they ironically gravitate towards the more toxic and unpleasant spaces. They struggle to believe good people exist, which gives them free reign to be mean and sadistic. By basking in the filth, they think they'll toughen up and be better able to face our harsh reality. For them, cruelty feels more honest than "hug boxing" "safe spaces." It makes them feel superior. Of course, all they're doing is following the path laid out for them by Elon Musk, Steve Bannon, and various other Epstein class ghouls.

Minoritized groups internalize the bigotry and perpetuate the very garbage ideology designed to control them. Women, alienated by capitalism like everyone else, are increasingly lonely and isolated from productive socal relations. The misogyny that underpins all fascism makes them increasingly combative and bitter towards men, and that very fascism encourages them to stop seeing men as people. They posit that those moids only have value as far as they can serve, only being tools to their own happiness rather than partners or friends. These women always reinforce the very patriarchal bullshit they suffer under; every time without fail.

So with all that said, fuck that type of femcel; they have no place here. This comm is usually about self-depreciation, but it is not a place to stew in infinite pits of hate or redirect those feelings outwards. Beyond being bad for you, it's cringe and serves oligarchy.

If you don't mind? Does anyone else find it at all peculiar that this new non-political usage of chud, which would be exactly the kind of thing the chuds would try to create, seems to come directly from the chuddiest site online, and sloshes over so frequently into our fine femcel fora? At this rate everyone will be a chud by the end of the year!

I sanity check myself with other not online queers. Like I’ll make some joke around “the gorls” and then start to walk it back thinking it sounded actually straight up misogynistic, only to be met with genuine laughter. Obviously our humor here isn’t for everyone, and it shouldn’t be, but as someone that has consistently been turned off of the site every time I visit 4chan, this space hits totally different.