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[–] 2 points 4 months ago

Canada used to hand out visas and student visas like candy. Tightening the applications process was both a Liberal and Conservative electoral promise.

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  • [+] -28 points 4 months ago* (22 children)

    Good?

    Like I'm all for people moving to Canada and becoming Canadian. But lately we've been admitting an increasing number of people with a very different mentality; who have burnt all their opportunities in their home country and see us as a backup.

    I've worked with LOTS of immigrants and hired many as well. I'll be the first to say most people who move here are great. But the fact remains that a few people actually are lazy and come here with the deliberate intention of mooching off the system. That obviously doesn't justify racism but I digress.

    This is not just coming from me either:

    1. This is what multiple people have told me; who themselves are 2nd/3rd gen immigrants and employers, and saying there are more people coming here to sponge off the system than there used to be.

    2. I know someone from my hometown who did the opposite. Took advantage of Greece's cheap rentals for immigrants and moved there with the intention of overstaying her travel visa.

    So yea makes sense to me that they would have to be pretty strict about letting people come in for FIFA. Perfect opportunity to sidestep the immigration process.

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  • [–] 25 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    But... what's the point of hosting a World cup if you're not willing to invite the world? Or do we now go down the road of hosting the world cup (which I don't care about) in five different countries everytime, so the hosts can only invite the people "they like"?

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    a dui 25+ earlier.

    Thats a misdemeanor in the US.

    25+ years earlier is silly to block someone, but if "misdemeanor" means minor crime, that's fucked up.

    Anyway, the US turns away people who have ever used weed in their lives. In Canada, it's legal to use it regularly.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

    They almost certainly blocked most of those people because they couldn't prove they had enough money to sustain themselves and return.

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    Is that whats going on here? I don't think so.

    They almost certainly blocked most of those people because they couldn't prove they had enough money to sustain themselves and return.

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago (10 children)

    Your rhetoric is very similar to far right people and great replacement believers

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  • [–] -4 points 4 months ago (9 children)

    You clearly have their reading comprehension if that's what you got from this.

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago (8 children)

    A very minority of imigrants are lazy like non imigrants can also be yet you are talking about how good it was to refuse the majority of applicants.

    Like racists you talk about how you have friends of the group you target. Mentionning thr imigrants you talked don't make your point more valid. There is imigrants who support ice and supoort the usa bombing their countries

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  • [–] -2 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    Thank you for confirming that you didn't understand what I was saying.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (6 children)

    I fully undertood you like the 6 other people who downvoted your racist and xenophobic comment

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  • [–] 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

    Buddy I've spent my whole life being misunderstood by people with zero ability to process nuance.

    I know who I am and I dgaf what a bunch of confidently incorrect redditors downvote.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago (4 children)

    Like I said. A very minority of imigrants are lazy like non imigrants can also be yet you are talking about how good it was to refuse the majority of applicants.

    The laziness argument is a well known far right and xenophobic argument

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago

    I've worked with LOTS of immigrants and hired many as well. I'll be the first to say most people who move here are great. But the fact remains that a few people actually are lazy

    Literally what I said. So step off.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 months ago* (2 children)

    A very minority of imigrants are lazy like non imigrants can also be yet

    Literally what I fucking said but you can't read.

    I've worked with LOTS of immigrants and hired many as well. I'll be the first to say most people who move here are great. But the fact remains that a few people actually are lazy

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    [–] 31 points 4 months ago* (8 children)

    It's sort of frustrating that they discovered this huge disparity between the rates of visa applications being approved from different countries, and then seemingly made no effort at all to investigate the reasons for it.

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  • [–] 10 points 4 months ago (7 children)

    what do you mean? there is a full gov agency that does nothing but check those patterns… I'm willing to bet the numbers probably hold in proportion when equalized to normal application rates

    not saying IRCC does a good job or not but if there is something they do, is analyze patterns and apply those patterns like a racist grandpa stereotyping from them

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (6 children)

    You're suggesting that it's obvious why world cup-related travel would result in a larger fraction of visa applications denied than other travel? It's not to me.

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  • [–] 7 points 4 months ago* (1 child)

    I am not saying it's obvious, I am refuting the suggestion it's arbitrary and not understood… you not knowing the reason for something does not imply the reason is unknown to all

    The vast majority of travel visas are denied because Canada can't verify something about security or ties to the applicants' origin country… "cup-related" travel has zero mitigating power over those, if anything it makes things worst

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  • [–] 3 points 4 months ago* (3 children)

    You’re suggesting that it’s obvious why world cup-related travel would result in a larger fraction of visa applications denied than other travel? It’s not to me.

    Compared with normal times, the world cup sees a much bigger proportion of people applying for tourist TRVs compared to work and study permits, and perhaps these have a higher rejection rate, which leads to a higher rejection rate overall. There is also the fact that the demographics of who is applying for world cup visitor visas may be a higher risk population than those who usually apply. In terms of the disparity between different countries themselves, this is quite normal that countries with higher risk of visa overstays, illegal work, etc, will have higher rejection rates.

    Refusing visas and determining admissibility is an act of sovereignty, I don't really see anything here worthy of an investigation.

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  • [–] -3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

    If noticing (and reporting on) an odd statistic does not make you want to investigate to find out the cause of it, you are perhaps not cut out for a career as a journalist.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

    I know a guy who had their visa denied because he failed in the "has enough money" criteria, apparently they think being poor is a risk factor for this person overstaying (which makes sense) but the guy literally had a World Cup ticket in hand and plane tickets (which is why he had no money left)...

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  • [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    « Overall, citizens of countries that require eTAs to enter Canada had an approval rate of 96 per pent, compared to just 32 per cent for those that need a visa. »

    Seems like applications from countries with an established electronic information exchange program were easier to validate with enough time to accommodate the short World Cup window.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 months ago*

    This year for the first time there are 10 African World Cup teams participating, and that makes me think of how passports are handled internationally in general. If our officials haven't done much about the way things are normally handled, it could cause a lot of fans to get locked out for no good reason.

    I saw an explainer video recently about this topic, and was surprised how people with less valued passports are treated. Apparently it's not just where you're a citizen but where you're born that determines what barriers a traveller will face. Doesn't matter if you have no criminal record or other connections to crime. Those of us who were both born and have citizenship in countries on the good list are very lucky. (The vid, for those interested: Youtube | Invidious)

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    [–] 5 points 4 months ago

    Electronic Travel Authorization vs Temporary Resident Visa... If you need the visa you must provide proof of funds and itinerary and other docs. The bar is much higher for folks from Ghana.

    Going through the checklist makes it seem easy:

    https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/visit-canada/check-visa-eta.html

    But then...

    You must meet some basic requirements to get a visitor visa.

    You must:

    • have a valid travel document, like a passport
    • be in good health
    • have no criminal or immigration-related convictions
    • convince an immigration officer that you have ties—such as a job, home, financial assets or family—that will take you back to your home country
    • convince an immigration officer that you will leave Canada at the end of your visit
    • have enough money for your stay
      • The amount of money you will need depends on how long you will stay and if you will stay in a hotel, or with friends or relatives.

    And it costs $100CAD and things change if you are applying from the US or from Ghana.

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