cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/31700751

Rachel Leingang in Minneapolis, Andrew Gumbel in Los Angeles and Melissa Hellmann in Philadelphia
Sat 14 Jun 2025 18.45 EDT

"No Kings organizers estimated the day’s events have so far drawn millions of people, with some hundreds still under way in all 50 states and to some cities abroad. These included over 200,000 in New York and over 100,000 in Philadelphia, plus some small towns with sizable crowds for their populations, including the town of Pentwater, Michigan, which saw 400 people join the protest in their 800-person town, the No Kings coalition said."

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[–] 18 points 1 year ago (21 children)

If all these people voted for someone else, Trump would not be our president. WAIT!

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  • [–] 76 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Some people who voted for Trump have repented and joined the movement for democracy in America.

    But also, there are serious doubts about the integrity of the 2024 elections and a nontrivial possibility that Trump didn't win the election.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

    Yep. Important to not assume the election was fraudulent. But there is a case filed to interrogate some anomalous results in at least some districts. It's definitely possible that foul play was involved.

    Some reasons to suspect foul play:

    https://www.planetcritical.com/p/cyber-security-experts-warn-election-hacked

    https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If it turns out to be fraudulent, I expect he will immediately step down, and everybody ruling, EO, and anything in-between that his administration has made will be immediately made null and void, and the person who actually won will assume office...oh, and then he gets to visit the inside of a prison where he belongs.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm not so sure, but sadly our constitution doesn't have a mechanism to rewind anyway. All we could do is impeach and remove him, and then just keep impeaching and removing successors until we get someone sane.

    Personally, I'm for a constitutional amendment to fix this, but it'll never happen.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I'm waiting for the results of the lawsuits. I said "I'm not so sure," but that doesn't mean I think the election was stolen, either. It means I'm not certain either way.

    But it doesn't really matter either way. Say ironclad evidence comes out that he stole the election; we have no means to walk it back.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    "Winning by cheating" is NOT equal to "winning".

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    Published yesterday. June 14, 2025 at 1:39pm

    Judge Rachel Tanguay of the New York Supreme Court ruled last month that the allegations from SMART Legislation, the action arm of nonpartisan watchdog SMART Elections, were substantial enough to advance to discovery.

    “There is clear evidence that the Senate results are incorrect, and there are statistical indications that the presidential results are highly unlikely,” SMART Legislation founder and executive director Lulu Friesdat said in a statement published by the Associated Press.

    https://www.westernjournal.com/lawsuit-alleges-secretly-altered-vote-machines-stole-election-kamala-harris/

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    Last Updated: 09 June, 2025 10:53 PM

    The lawsuit is supported by election integrity experts, including Susan Greenhalgh, who pointed out the suspicious results where down-ballot races like Congress had votes, but the presidential column was blank—an extremely rare occurrence.

    This raised serious questions about whether the voting machines malfunctioned, were tampered with, or failed to register certain selections.

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/kamala-harris-election-result-trumps-victory-under-scrutiny-as-lawsuit-filed-heres-what-could-happen-next/articleshow/121760834.cms?from=mdr

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    June 17, 2025

    Dr. Walter Mebane, Jr. of theUniversity of Michigan, has found statistical evidence of vote manipulation in the 2024U.S. election. His working report analyzing the 2024 Pennsylvania election resultscorroborates the findings of Election Truth Alliance’s (ETA), a non-partisan nonprofit that recently shared an analysis of election results in three counties in Pennsylvania.

    https://electiontruthalliance.org/

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What percentage of these people do you think voted for Trump in the first place?

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