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[–] 267 points 1 year ago (219 children)

Trump: convicted rapist, pedophile, misogynistic swine. Also failed businessman, pathological liar, corrupt to all hell. Sellout to Russia and the Nazis.

Harris: didn't condemn Israel.

Fuck off 'both sides'-ers

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    A vote for Trump is a vote to end America. It really is that simple. If there is one thing I hope future generations rally around and condemn is Trump voters. I hope they are shamed for eternity.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If that's all you think it is then you've been under a rock.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I wish Lemmy had a remind me bot so I could come back to this comment in 6 months. It takes time for Trade and Tourism to drop off, and more time for the effects of that to be noticed by the average citizen who is having the reality of the situation hidden from them by the propaganda machine of the oligarchs.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    And the Earth won't disappear if we do nothing about global warming. It will just become uninhabital for human life.

    So sure, the land mass will still exist, but maybe raise the bar a little bit...

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    A lot of what made the US a superpower has already disappeared. Its alliances with Europe and the Commonwealth. Its influence on global trade. Its influence on global institutions. Its soft power through things like USAID.

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  • [–] [M] 122 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

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    Misinformation and genocide denial

    I'm leaving this up.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    And it's why I voted for harris. But I also understand that the prospect of "the best you can get" being an endless continuation of an untenable status quo that was trending worse even under a democratic president is why people stayed home.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    You can make the point about trump being a criminally weirdo pervert fake businessman without misrepresenting (and therefore failing to learn from) the 2024 election.

    Harris kicked tent poles out of the Big Tent(tm). This includes immigration (low latino turnout). It seems unserious to say it was just the blind eye to Israel's genocide that lost the election, i haven't seen a piece of evidence that bore out the genocide as Kamala's sole reason for losing the popular vote.

    Its also the case that republicans spend literally billions more on media and it leads to them dominating online spaces with pure spam. Online posting is never a substitute for knocking on doors, a thing the Kamala campaign failed to do sufficiently.

    DNC apologists always being like "well they were trying to recruit more bigots" and then act surprised when the bigots and their overwhelming piles of media cash chase voters out of the Big Tent

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Americans want neoliberalism, they just don’t want a woman in charge.

    neoliberals want neoliberalism and they pretend that harris lost because she's a woman in order to shut out AOC.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    She offered no policy to Americans except "Trump is worse." She will never beat Trump or fascism. Americans want fascism , fascism lite doesnt beat fascism. You want to beat fascism you need opposition

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Less than a third want fascism, and even then, some people that voted for Trump are getting their faces eaten by leopards.

    We need progressive opposition politicians that can speak to what Americans want: affordability, equity, health care.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    The irritating thing here is that so many people think we had other options available to vote for. I TRIED to vote for Bernie, DNC made sure that didn't happen, I WANT to vote for someone that doesn't support genocide, I WANT a candidate that says fuck Democrats, fuck Republicans, we are heading to the left full steam ahead. But that was never on the fucking ballot. And even if they were, we need all the sitting representatives and senators to be ousted too or they will have zero support institutionally and still get nothing done despite their position.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (55 children)

    This this this this this this this this.

    I have zero goddamn sympathy for any so-called "leftist" who didn't vote for Kamala. You have condoned neo-facism to stroke your own ego. No two ways about it. At least now they get to enjoy the fruits of their labor. Tell me, how's that self-righteousness taste?

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (29 children)

    You say as the genocide in Gaza is being aided and abetted by Trump in a way it would never have been even by the Democrats.

    You guys are so happy to throw Palestinians under the bus for your black and white worldview

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Being suicidal doesn't entitle you to take the rest us down with you! You've clutched your pearls so hard that you've managed to bloody your hands anyway.

    Quit being unethical in the name of ethics.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And despite this, trump is still worse. You can go on and on about this singular issue but at the end of this stupid disingenuous contortionist act, trump is still worse.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (39 children)

    Your single-issue principles contributed to us being stuck again with Trump.

    And guess what? The kids are starving even worse now, and being gunned down, when they're not being bombed. You must be really proud of yourself.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    No you aren't. You are boiling a complex problem down to a singular issue as if there was some mystical way to vote or abstain and not continue to have genocide issues in Palestine. No matter if you didn't vote or voted for trump or voted for kamala this issue would still be there!

    In this scenario the option isn't to lean full force into fascist theocracy and quite honestly, deeper genocide support with the republicans and Trump. The only reasonable choice was to mitigate all the other issues on the table.

    I'm glad you can't vote here, because if you are too dumb to understand this dilema, then you are just like the people that contributed to this mess. So stay where you are please and thank you.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Good thing in the years leading up to October 7th, when Democrats were in office, we couldn't force Israel to adopt a one-state solution.

    Obama, Biden, Harris, they're all complicit in the aggressive approach of Israel towards the apartheid and genocide they commit today.

    And not just today. For the past 75+ years

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Centrism will never bear fascism, you need actual opposition. Crazy how you all still dont realize this yet? How long will it take?

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I mean our only choices are Facists and cowardly facist enablers. Both sides really do suck.....

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    Why are you separating russia and israel? Both are fascist states.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Well to be fair, Trump wanted to cooperate with Israel on a beach resort in Gaza, whereas Harris was just afraid of saying Israel bad, because Israel buys a fucktonne of weapons from the US and a big part of the country is ridiculously pro-israel.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Trump didn't stop genocide. In fact it's markedly worse under him. This is more complex than one issue.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yes it fucking is worse under trump and Democrats aren't my fucking team.

    Call me soulless all you fucking want, it won't make it true. My friends died because of this fucking genocide. I want it to end and not because israel ran out of Palestinians. But you sitting there pretending like this was fixable in this election is asinine. Maybe in some fantasy land we would have had a decent candidate to vote for. But in reality I was given an option between a tyrannical fascist that would happily accelerate genocide, and an ineffectual slug that would slow play the genocide. A slower option is better than an accelerated one, even if both are horrendously bad.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Never once denied that genocide was happening. Your reading comprehension sucks man. Show me where I said there is no genocide.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is english not your language or something? Do you not know what it means for something to get worse?

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