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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 13 points 19 hours ago (10 children) Oh, they've been assholes long before AI was a thing permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago And the competitors are as full of shit 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent [+] dudeface@lemmy.world -2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] b3nsn0w@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (7 children) lmao apple as the paragon of pro-consumer behaviour is one hell of an idea. the main reason their os isn't full of ai is because they're mad they didn't invent it. they insisted the longest to call it machine learning instead, and when they switched over they called it "apple intelligence". but they aren't avoiding it, they just suck at it, and they always want to call everything by another name and present it a different way so it's special and "magical" when it's on their devices. but behind all that cultish nonsense they have had ai features for ages, often randomly pushed, and they too have reoriented their cpu architecture to include ai processing and run llms. they just have a mainly hardware business instead of a mainly software one, so they tend to emphasise device-dependent local systems instead of cloud apps that work on any device. and that's on top of locking down everything, because they want to mediate computers to you. imo that's the big issue with apple, they don't want to give you any access to your own tech, because technology is magic and you're not a wizard, they are. that's not specifically ai-related though, but it does inform their handling of ai too, and it's the main reason apple should have been on your list of companies not to buy from way before chatgpt blew up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (2 children) Man, that was a rant and a half. I would argue that apple is pro-consumer, having bought a dozen of their machines in this century, for a handful of key reasons. You're welcome to disagree, but you asked, so I'm going to put forward most succinctly what I'm able. They back their products, with actual warranty and actual talent. I have had an ipad, a Macbook pro, and iphone, a MacBook Air and other devices replaced at The Genius bar when there was a hardware fault that wasn't any mistake of my own. One time I bought a refurbished iPad off of Groupon, and it was clearly a hack job, but Apple replaced it for me at the Genius bar for the cost of a battery replacement. Ditto a refurbished MacBook Air off eBay genius Bar replacement for the whole unit. They built a lot of their software on standards based technologies, and actually have contributed in part to open source projects early on, even if that's not their way these days. As far as being a hardware business, they actually craft quality products that can last a long time, and like I said before they will back their brand and support or replace hardware when it doesn't. They have done more for Consumer privacy than Google has, they have respected individual user privacy more than Microsoft has, and while you could say that benchmark standard is literally in hell, i would point out that I have been using my last 3 apple laptops without any Apple account or Cloud user b*******, all local user only. I've never been opted into all of their AI, beyond allowing Siri to take dictation from me which I opted into. There's more but I imagine reading this is tedious, I'm just pointing out that Apple has commanded a premium for their products but that they haven't squandered that value like so many others that are aggressively enshitifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] b3nsn0w@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 child) notice how none of the arguments you had contradicted any of my points for why they suck. you just highlighted some other ways in which they happen to not suck. this is textbook iFan tribalism. i'm not here to fanboy over any tech, i'm here to call out apple on trying to own computing and lock you out of it. the fact that you felt like you had to attack me over it, trying to paint me as unreasonable, while your main point is basically just "yeah but everyone else sucks more" shows that you really need to reevaluate your attachment to megacorporations. apple isn't a scrappy underdog. they're one of the largest corporations on the planet. they don't need you in the trenches fighting off their competition, they can run their own ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago I wasn't trying to line by line argue your statements, I was offering my own. I'm not beholden tp apple, and only have two of their devices in my fleet today. You are right that they are most reliable and privacy respecting mutherfuckers in my Armada of machines, without me having to gut-and-replace the OS or add insane layers of additional security like I have to with all other mobile and desktop devices. You're right that I like them for reasons that aren't the same as the reasons you seem to dislike them. Worth mention, this is a community, and these communities will only be as healthy as we show up to in them. How are we going to encourage each other today? Because I'm getting a lot of discouragement from you, and it's on us to build Lemmy and the pockets of places we congregate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dudeface@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children) And why is that? What do they do that's pro consumer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dudeface@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago They make the hardware, of course their own software is well supported in it. Completely closed source and no independent privacy auditing means their marketing determines how people view their privacy features. They have never proven it. They own the walled garden, the users are just guests. They don't "sell your data to advertisers", but they do "share your data with partners". So not much of a difference. There are tons of actual, provable anti-consumer practices. Feel free to google it yourself, but this article is a good primer, with sources. https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 19 hours ago And the competitors are as full of shit 🤣 permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dudeface@lemmy.world -2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (8 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] b3nsn0w@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (7 children) lmao apple as the paragon of pro-consumer behaviour is one hell of an idea. the main reason their os isn't full of ai is because they're mad they didn't invent it. they insisted the longest to call it machine learning instead, and when they switched over they called it "apple intelligence". but they aren't avoiding it, they just suck at it, and they always want to call everything by another name and present it a different way so it's special and "magical" when it's on their devices. but behind all that cultish nonsense they have had ai features for ages, often randomly pushed, and they too have reoriented their cpu architecture to include ai processing and run llms. they just have a mainly hardware business instead of a mainly software one, so they tend to emphasise device-dependent local systems instead of cloud apps that work on any device. and that's on top of locking down everything, because they want to mediate computers to you. imo that's the big issue with apple, they don't want to give you any access to your own tech, because technology is magic and you're not a wizard, they are. that's not specifically ai-related though, but it does inform their handling of ai too, and it's the main reason apple should have been on your list of companies not to buy from way before chatgpt blew up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (2 children) Man, that was a rant and a half. I would argue that apple is pro-consumer, having bought a dozen of their machines in this century, for a handful of key reasons. You're welcome to disagree, but you asked, so I'm going to put forward most succinctly what I'm able. They back their products, with actual warranty and actual talent. I have had an ipad, a Macbook pro, and iphone, a MacBook Air and other devices replaced at The Genius bar when there was a hardware fault that wasn't any mistake of my own. One time I bought a refurbished iPad off of Groupon, and it was clearly a hack job, but Apple replaced it for me at the Genius bar for the cost of a battery replacement. Ditto a refurbished MacBook Air off eBay genius Bar replacement for the whole unit. They built a lot of their software on standards based technologies, and actually have contributed in part to open source projects early on, even if that's not their way these days. As far as being a hardware business, they actually craft quality products that can last a long time, and like I said before they will back their brand and support or replace hardware when it doesn't. They have done more for Consumer privacy than Google has, they have respected individual user privacy more than Microsoft has, and while you could say that benchmark standard is literally in hell, i would point out that I have been using my last 3 apple laptops without any Apple account or Cloud user b*******, all local user only. I've never been opted into all of their AI, beyond allowing Siri to take dictation from me which I opted into. There's more but I imagine reading this is tedious, I'm just pointing out that Apple has commanded a premium for their products but that they haven't squandered that value like so many others that are aggressively enshitifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] b3nsn0w@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 child) notice how none of the arguments you had contradicted any of my points for why they suck. you just highlighted some other ways in which they happen to not suck. this is textbook iFan tribalism. i'm not here to fanboy over any tech, i'm here to call out apple on trying to own computing and lock you out of it. the fact that you felt like you had to attack me over it, trying to paint me as unreasonable, while your main point is basically just "yeah but everyone else sucks more" shows that you really need to reevaluate your attachment to megacorporations. apple isn't a scrappy underdog. they're one of the largest corporations on the planet. they don't need you in the trenches fighting off their competition, they can run their own ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago I wasn't trying to line by line argue your statements, I was offering my own. I'm not beholden tp apple, and only have two of their devices in my fleet today. You are right that they are most reliable and privacy respecting mutherfuckers in my Armada of machines, without me having to gut-and-replace the OS or add insane layers of additional security like I have to with all other mobile and desktop devices. You're right that I like them for reasons that aren't the same as the reasons you seem to dislike them. Worth mention, this is a community, and these communities will only be as healthy as we show up to in them. How are we going to encourage each other today? Because I'm getting a lot of discouragement from you, and it's on us to build Lemmy and the pockets of places we congregate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dudeface@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children) And why is that? What do they do that's pro consumer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dudeface@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago They make the hardware, of course their own software is well supported in it. Completely closed source and no independent privacy auditing means their marketing determines how people view their privacy features. They have never proven it. They own the walled garden, the users are just guests. They don't "sell your data to advertisers", but they do "share your data with partners". So not much of a difference. There are tons of actual, provable anti-consumer practices. Feel free to google it yourself, but this article is a good primer, with sources. https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] b3nsn0w@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago (7 children) lmao apple as the paragon of pro-consumer behaviour is one hell of an idea. the main reason their os isn't full of ai is because they're mad they didn't invent it. they insisted the longest to call it machine learning instead, and when they switched over they called it "apple intelligence". but they aren't avoiding it, they just suck at it, and they always want to call everything by another name and present it a different way so it's special and "magical" when it's on their devices. but behind all that cultish nonsense they have had ai features for ages, often randomly pushed, and they too have reoriented their cpu architecture to include ai processing and run llms. they just have a mainly hardware business instead of a mainly software one, so they tend to emphasise device-dependent local systems instead of cloud apps that work on any device. and that's on top of locking down everything, because they want to mediate computers to you. imo that's the big issue with apple, they don't want to give you any access to your own tech, because technology is magic and you're not a wizard, they are. that's not specifically ai-related though, but it does inform their handling of ai too, and it's the main reason apple should have been on your list of companies not to buy from way before chatgpt blew up. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (2 children) Man, that was a rant and a half. I would argue that apple is pro-consumer, having bought a dozen of their machines in this century, for a handful of key reasons. You're welcome to disagree, but you asked, so I'm going to put forward most succinctly what I'm able. They back their products, with actual warranty and actual talent. I have had an ipad, a Macbook pro, and iphone, a MacBook Air and other devices replaced at The Genius bar when there was a hardware fault that wasn't any mistake of my own. One time I bought a refurbished iPad off of Groupon, and it was clearly a hack job, but Apple replaced it for me at the Genius bar for the cost of a battery replacement. Ditto a refurbished MacBook Air off eBay genius Bar replacement for the whole unit. They built a lot of their software on standards based technologies, and actually have contributed in part to open source projects early on, even if that's not their way these days. As far as being a hardware business, they actually craft quality products that can last a long time, and like I said before they will back their brand and support or replace hardware when it doesn't. They have done more for Consumer privacy than Google has, they have respected individual user privacy more than Microsoft has, and while you could say that benchmark standard is literally in hell, i would point out that I have been using my last 3 apple laptops without any Apple account or Cloud user b*******, all local user only. I've never been opted into all of their AI, beyond allowing Siri to take dictation from me which I opted into. There's more but I imagine reading this is tedious, I'm just pointing out that Apple has commanded a premium for their products but that they haven't squandered that value like so many others that are aggressively enshitifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] b3nsn0w@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 child) notice how none of the arguments you had contradicted any of my points for why they suck. you just highlighted some other ways in which they happen to not suck. this is textbook iFan tribalism. i'm not here to fanboy over any tech, i'm here to call out apple on trying to own computing and lock you out of it. the fact that you felt like you had to attack me over it, trying to paint me as unreasonable, while your main point is basically just "yeah but everyone else sucks more" shows that you really need to reevaluate your attachment to megacorporations. apple isn't a scrappy underdog. they're one of the largest corporations on the planet. they don't need you in the trenches fighting off their competition, they can run their own ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago I wasn't trying to line by line argue your statements, I was offering my own. I'm not beholden tp apple, and only have two of their devices in my fleet today. You are right that they are most reliable and privacy respecting mutherfuckers in my Armada of machines, without me having to gut-and-replace the OS or add insane layers of additional security like I have to with all other mobile and desktop devices. You're right that I like them for reasons that aren't the same as the reasons you seem to dislike them. Worth mention, this is a community, and these communities will only be as healthy as we show up to in them. How are we going to encourage each other today? Because I'm getting a lot of discouragement from you, and it's on us to build Lemmy and the pockets of places we congregate. permalink fedilink source parent [+] dudeface@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children) And why is that? What do they do that's pro consumer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dudeface@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago They make the hardware, of course their own software is well supported in it. Completely closed source and no independent privacy auditing means their marketing determines how people view their privacy features. They have never proven it. They own the walled garden, the users are just guests. They don't "sell your data to advertisers", but they do "share your data with partners". So not much of a difference. There are tons of actual, provable anti-consumer practices. Feel free to google it yourself, but this article is a good primer, with sources. https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 1 point 3 hours ago (2 children) Man, that was a rant and a half. I would argue that apple is pro-consumer, having bought a dozen of their machines in this century, for a handful of key reasons. You're welcome to disagree, but you asked, so I'm going to put forward most succinctly what I'm able. They back their products, with actual warranty and actual talent. I have had an ipad, a Macbook pro, and iphone, a MacBook Air and other devices replaced at The Genius bar when there was a hardware fault that wasn't any mistake of my own. One time I bought a refurbished iPad off of Groupon, and it was clearly a hack job, but Apple replaced it for me at the Genius bar for the cost of a battery replacement. Ditto a refurbished MacBook Air off eBay genius Bar replacement for the whole unit. They built a lot of their software on standards based technologies, and actually have contributed in part to open source projects early on, even if that's not their way these days. As far as being a hardware business, they actually craft quality products that can last a long time, and like I said before they will back their brand and support or replace hardware when it doesn't. They have done more for Consumer privacy than Google has, they have respected individual user privacy more than Microsoft has, and while you could say that benchmark standard is literally in hell, i would point out that I have been using my last 3 apple laptops without any Apple account or Cloud user b*******, all local user only. I've never been opted into all of their AI, beyond allowing Siri to take dictation from me which I opted into. There's more but I imagine reading this is tedious, I'm just pointing out that Apple has commanded a premium for their products but that they haven't squandered that value like so many others that are aggressively enshitifying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] b3nsn0w@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 child) notice how none of the arguments you had contradicted any of my points for why they suck. you just highlighted some other ways in which they happen to not suck. this is textbook iFan tribalism. i'm not here to fanboy over any tech, i'm here to call out apple on trying to own computing and lock you out of it. the fact that you felt like you had to attack me over it, trying to paint me as unreasonable, while your main point is basically just "yeah but everyone else sucks more" shows that you really need to reevaluate your attachment to megacorporations. apple isn't a scrappy underdog. they're one of the largest corporations on the planet. they don't need you in the trenches fighting off their competition, they can run their own ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago I wasn't trying to line by line argue your statements, I was offering my own. I'm not beholden tp apple, and only have two of their devices in my fleet today. You are right that they are most reliable and privacy respecting mutherfuckers in my Armada of machines, without me having to gut-and-replace the OS or add insane layers of additional security like I have to with all other mobile and desktop devices. You're right that I like them for reasons that aren't the same as the reasons you seem to dislike them. Worth mention, this is a community, and these communities will only be as healthy as we show up to in them. How are we going to encourage each other today? Because I'm getting a lot of discouragement from you, and it's on us to build Lemmy and the pockets of places we congregate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] b3nsn0w@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 child) notice how none of the arguments you had contradicted any of my points for why they suck. you just highlighted some other ways in which they happen to not suck. this is textbook iFan tribalism. i'm not here to fanboy over any tech, i'm here to call out apple on trying to own computing and lock you out of it. the fact that you felt like you had to attack me over it, trying to paint me as unreasonable, while your main point is basically just "yeah but everyone else sucks more" shows that you really need to reevaluate your attachment to megacorporations. apple isn't a scrappy underdog. they're one of the largest corporations on the planet. they don't need you in the trenches fighting off their competition, they can run their own ads. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago I wasn't trying to line by line argue your statements, I was offering my own. I'm not beholden tp apple, and only have two of their devices in my fleet today. You are right that they are most reliable and privacy respecting mutherfuckers in my Armada of machines, without me having to gut-and-replace the OS or add insane layers of additional security like I have to with all other mobile and desktop devices. You're right that I like them for reasons that aren't the same as the reasons you seem to dislike them. Worth mention, this is a community, and these communities will only be as healthy as we show up to in them. How are we going to encourage each other today? Because I'm getting a lot of discouragement from you, and it's on us to build Lemmy and the pockets of places we congregate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cardfire@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago I wasn't trying to line by line argue your statements, I was offering my own. I'm not beholden tp apple, and only have two of their devices in my fleet today. You are right that they are most reliable and privacy respecting mutherfuckers in my Armada of machines, without me having to gut-and-replace the OS or add insane layers of additional security like I have to with all other mobile and desktop devices. You're right that I like them for reasons that aren't the same as the reasons you seem to dislike them. Worth mention, this is a community, and these communities will only be as healthy as we show up to in them. How are we going to encourage each other today? Because I'm getting a lot of discouragement from you, and it's on us to build Lemmy and the pockets of places we congregate. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dudeface@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children) And why is that? What do they do that's pro consumer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dudeface@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago They make the hardware, of course their own software is well supported in it. Completely closed source and no independent privacy auditing means their marketing determines how people view their privacy features. They have never proven it. They own the walled garden, the users are just guests. They don't "sell your data to advertisers", but they do "share your data with partners". So not much of a difference. There are tons of actual, provable anti-consumer practices. Feel free to google it yourself, but this article is a good primer, with sources. https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 1 point 6 hours ago (2 children) And why is that? What do they do that's pro consumer? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] dudeface@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago They make the hardware, of course their own software is well supported in it. Completely closed source and no independent privacy auditing means their marketing determines how people view their privacy features. They have never proven it. They own the walled garden, the users are just guests. They don't "sell your data to advertisers", but they do "share your data with partners". So not much of a difference. There are tons of actual, provable anti-consumer practices. Feel free to google it yourself, but this article is a good primer, with sources. https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ permalink fedilink source parent
[+] dudeface@lemmy.world 1 point 6 hours ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago They make the hardware, of course their own software is well supported in it. Completely closed source and no independent privacy auditing means their marketing determines how people view their privacy features. They have never proven it. They own the walled garden, the users are just guests. They don't "sell your data to advertisers", but they do "share your data with partners". So not much of a difference. There are tons of actual, provable anti-consumer practices. Feel free to google it yourself, but this article is a good primer, with sources. https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Kewlio250@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago They make the hardware, of course their own software is well supported in it. Completely closed source and no independent privacy auditing means their marketing determines how people view their privacy features. They have never proven it. They own the walled garden, the users are just guests. They don't "sell your data to advertisers", but they do "share your data with partners". So not much of a difference. There are tons of actual, provable anti-consumer practices. Feel free to google it yourself, but this article is a good primer, with sources. https://truthout.org/articles/apple-leads-smartphone-industry-into-anti-consumer-environmental-hell/ permalink fedilink source parent