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OT: The MS issue and what caused it (lemmy.ml)
submitted 13 hours ago by to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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folks,i know this is OT but i decided to post here as i'm sure there are a lot of people here that work in IT and know what thay are talking about. The recent MS failure is what i would like your opinion on.

from what I've seen, MS declared that a bunch of servers went offline and the load had to be spread on remaining servers. They fail to identify what caused the first bunch of servers encountering issues and they claim it was mot related to a hacker attack (why would they, it would lead to massive panic and distrust). So, then what caused the issue in the first place? Could it have been a piloted denail of service attack?

I'm sure the truth will emerge in coming days but was interested in the more tech savy people's opinione. In the meantime i rejoyce for not having to depend of third party infrastructure at home, thanks to my little homelab.

A further consideration is that this does once again prove that companies that put all their eggs in one basket, are at yhe mercy of big tech. i experienced this personally at works where comunication by Teams and Outlooks was pretty much halted for hours.

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[–] -1 points 10 hours ago* (7 children)

I’m sure this day loss of productivity and not even a total outage will have everyone hiring teams to run their email. I’m sure it’ll be cheaper and definitely more reliable 🙄

Y’all really don’t understand how the money flows or how expensive it is to run this shit.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 hours ago (3 children)

    Do you really think a self hosting community has no idea how difficult and time consuming self hosting email is?

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  • [–] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

    Yes, this is basically a bunch of home lab enthusiasts. There's nothing wrong with that but doing it for even a small business of 50 people is extremely different in terms of requirements.

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  • [–] 2 points 4 hours ago

    Have you spent any time in these 'home lab enthusiasts' spaces? Nobody here is suggesting that you should go and self host email. Nobody is making it sound easy. In fact if you look at posts talking about email, almost every time the subject of email comes up you have a significant portion of the community saying it's outright not worth self hosting email. It's such a time consuming and opaque process to figure out why email isn't being sent or received that few do so.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago

    Yeah, any time someone says "I'm thinking about hosting for a business" my answer is "run away screaming". Or set up as a business yourself. Never ever provide for a business as an individual, especially not without being paid enough to insure yourself.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 hours ago

    Not to mention this doesn't really nudge their 99% uptime stat. Unless this kind of downtime event becomes a pattern then I find it hard to believe companies are going to start investing in their own software stacks especially when most of them couldn't afford it in the first place.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 hours ago

    This community isn't really the place for pragmatic takes on this kind of stuff. It's largely homelab style hobbyists that have no idea about running anything for more than maybe 2-3 people (probably solo in most cases).

    Unfortunately none of the actual professional communities from reddit seem to have active equivalents on Lemmy.

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