The domain https://fediverse.observer redirects to sedo now.

On October 11th these two commits where made to the repo:

this will be my final release, glad to have contributed since 2011 to some fediverse stats, https://fedidb.com/ is a great resource with more interest

this software is no longer developed

Sad to have lost such a great resource.

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Agreed about FiniteBanjo but iirc that definitely was not the only one ...

So, I looked at the post without being logged in and I see your point. It seems I have blocked a fair share of contentious people. FiniteBanjo appears to be the only one that hasn't warranted a block. My mistake for not checking an unfiltered version of the post. Appreciate the correction :)

Reddit offers the ability to lock a particular thread within a post (including I believe replies underneath it?), but I forget if that is possible in Lemmy or not.

That sounds like a pretty cool feature. I don't link I've ever seen it implemented in the threadiverse though.

The tools tend to be significantly more primitive here, even if not enshittified for reasons of profit, just shit instead for reasons of not enough effort put in as compared to a multi-million dollar corporation hiring full teams of dedicated programmers. And then add the constraints of requiring working within the ActivityPub Protocol to enact federation and it becomes clear how much more difficult this task is to not merely replace Reddit but expand beyond it.

Yeah, we're definitely on the slower road :/

... LW has >90% of the most active communities ...

Do you have a source? Not trying to disagree, genuinely curious to look at the data. Activity Data puts Lemmy.world users originating/creating less than a 1/3 of total activity. So, it'd be interesting if everyone goes to lemmy.world communities. I know Mia's Community Growth Posts often have Lemmy.world communities with the most new subscribers, but I don't know if they have the most "active" communities by total number (posts, comments, visiting users).

New members will in virtually no way be guided into understanding any of this, leading to such posts as e.g. the recent one in Fediverse expressing absolute shock at having been banned from Lemmy.ml - as if that wasn’t a practically daily event here (or at least definitely would be if we had a sufficient populace to keep up that rate).

Yeah, better/any on-boarding is really needed.

We are fast falling into fragmentation, since we cannot maintain mutual respect. And especially if evidence really was being outright faked (I have no idea?), then all the more so.

I am not trying to suggest that such an action would signal the death knell for Lemmy, but the fact that it seemed imminent at one point and in fact is still high likely does not exactly signal health either, particularly in terms of a mindset of growth as opposed to mere existence.

I would actually go the other way and say things have calmed way down compared to like a year ago. I really thought the threadiverse was going to split during the false evidence against the anarchists and .world admin calls to de-federate. It seems, to me, that everyone has taken a step back and mostly just stays out of each other's way now, which isn't getting along, but doesn't appear to be actively antagonistic.

I think, even if it did split, it wouldn't be a unified split. All the "non-aligned" instances (not neo-liberal, not ml, not anarchist) is like 50% of the threadiverse and they would still see everything. So, I expect the "non-aligned" instances would increase in size and the "aligned" instances would decrease in size. Which is kind of what the data shows (all three "aligned" groups show decreases (anarchists the least) and "non-aligned" increasing on average).

I also am not opposed to decentralization, particularly since that’s already what we have now, but we should somewhere EXPLAIN this to new joiners. Although many years into this project, I haven’t really seen even the first steps towards such a thing.

Agreed about the swimming pool illustration regarding onboarding, except it’s far worse than that even: we here all learned GENTLY as the waters slowly rise about us, so we each picked up a few new concepts as the years trickled (or sped?) past us. New joiners are being asked to suddenly learn all of it at once, and even worse than that besides, to do so prior to making an account.

I don’t like questionaires, but something along the lines of the PieFed instance picker where the information is all laid out, filtering is possible based on it, and sentences explain the various choices possible would be a great way forward, if someone were willing to take up that project.

Yeah, unfortunately not enough developers/admin/mods/supporters to go around at this point. I already have a number of my own projects that don't have enough time devoted to them, but I'm open to working on some on-boarding features/pitches with you, if you're interested.

Another example is that I know of no possible way to view an instance’s set of rules from within Voyager. That entire sidebar might as well not exist for people using Voyager, which unfortunately also seems the most likely scenario for a new joiner coming here from Reddit?

I agree about Voyager's inability to see the instance sidebar/set-of-rules. I made a post about it. We'll see what happens.

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    Do you have a source!

    Blaze had calculated that at some point. It was quite awhile ago so that could have changed radically since then but... based on all of my personal experience things seem to mostly be moving in the opposite direction. e.g. as mander.xyz and slrpnk.net are both down (hopefully just temporarily), and smaller communities struggling mightily hence people remain in the biggest ones.

    One example is !tenforward@lemmy.world retaining 5.77K MAUs compared to its offshoot !tenforward@piefed.world with just 0.08K MAUs. And I mentioned others like !nonpolitical_comics@piefed.social previously. You likely see this happening all across the entire Threadiverse. We cannot support much niche content so it generalizes instead. The trends towards centralization are not being counter-balanced as much as previously by trends away from that.

    It does seem believable to me though, that separately from all MAUs, the number of existing communities that people post into are concentrated on LW. Again, there was a huge shift to try to spread them around, but that was before the Flotilla began threatening to split the Threadiverse in two in consolidation with anarchist.nexus, and I for one tend not to post into communities located on dbzero anymore (I am not like morally opposed to such, but I just don't try to prioritize it as I once used to).

    doesn't appear to be actively antagonistic.

    That is probably due to your having blocked a lot of it? But if you narrowly mean between AN & DB0 vs. LW then yeah to that much. Although I recall reading in the DB0 meta community that the call to defederate from LW was postponed: (1) for something like half to one year, for preemptively defederating then - i.e. this calming down period was intentional yet a vote as to whether to continue was still on the schedule even in the heat of it all, and also (2) separately from that, virtually a guarantee to happen if any single member of the Flotilla ever gets defederated from, I think this one not merely by LW but by any instance whatsoever, anywhere. That is no mere threat about some future vote that may or may not happen - that is outright policy, a settled matter, iirc.

    Again, not that any of this stuff is easy to keep up with, even by us here, to say nothing of newcomers.

    All the "non-aligned" instances (not neo-liberal, not ml, not anarchist) is like 50% of the threadiverse and they would still see everything.

    That assumption might not be true. If the Flotilla defederates not merely from LW but from any instance that remains federated with it, then the schism would be wide indeed. But we'd have to read more the Flotilla policy to see (again) their stated aims. I forget the likelihood of this being true, but it's definitely nonzero and more than just a vague conspiracy theory - whether it actually happens or not, people were most definitely clamoring for exactly that to occur, and it was not a fringe opinion iirc. Then again, after the cooling period, things probably will look different, so most likely the most extremist opinions will be drowned out by those wanting the greater convenience of remaining connected.

    I will now go read your post:-).

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