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Witnessed someone argue that genAI is socialist because it's a "free resource" and that "art is imperialist" and I'm just gobsmacked (lemmy.world)
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His argument was literally that

  • artists, writers, and programmers are "labor aristocracy" and deserve no respect because they're sitting around making art and writing code while other people are toiling and laboring,
  • genAI is a "free resource" ("it's free for me to use at work") that "helps everyone make things" instead of having to rely on skill and expertise and therefore makes everything equal,
  • it's hypocritical of people to be worried about the environmental and societal impact of genAI because "only white people are worried about it now that their hobbies are being threatened and everyone else is catching up".

Pointing out there there are artists and programmers from every race and economic class, as well as perfectly ordinary people in every walk of life who are all actively being harmed both by the theft of ideas and labor and by the physical effects of gigantic data centers ruining communities, was met with much hand-waving and incredibly impenetrable philosophical jargon.

I'm particularly incensed because I'm as leftist and anticapitalist as they come and this felt like the fuckery some conservative cockwomble would try to come up with to parody socialism, except this guy was completely serious.

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[–] -5 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

you're intellectual and private property's strongest soldier, which is the literal basis for capitalism

you say that you care about the theft of labor "from every race and economic class", which would include proletarian artists selling their labor for a wage, yet under such circumstance the art was already alienated and "stolen" from the artist by the capitalist hiring them given how wage labor and private property functions, it doesn't make sense. Where it does make sense is when it's applied to petty bourgeois (small business owning) artists, who as a class are the social basis for fascism (hence Mussolini)

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago

    Of course this is always the practical go to example:

    The artist that wants to sell their art. This however is necessarily a petty bourgeois artists.

    This the "fuck ai socialist" standpoint is whole heartedly capitalist since they effectively protect the petty bourgeoisie in general.

    As long as the corporate head honcho is forced to toil alongside their workers it is good capitalism. Only when the head honcho is not on the production site anymore because the corporation is profitable enough begins bad capitalism.

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