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[–] 41 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Pretentious people really ruined it for those who are just interested in linguistics or just lived in catalonia or etc. Like apart from saying barcelona as barthelona, catalonia as cataluñaand any french word correctly, nobody gets mad about pronouncing words correctly. Like if i (try) to say a polish word correctly most likely a polish person is gonna be happy and nobody else will notice. If anything its not even pretentious people ruining it, its the people who get upset by that. This a comment about society.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    To be fair, it's much more impressive to pronounce Wąbrzeźno.

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  • [–] 2 points 18 hours ago

    Heres my try: w is v, rz is a retroflex z(so a z pronounced kinda in a way how the "indian t" is pronounced) and the z that i cant type is like a soft z. Oh also the a which i once again cant type is nasal. Now how this would sound when i pronounce it, im not sure how correct it would be but at least i tried? Also sometimes the orthography is more confusing when the clusters are larger so yeah.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Yeah, I just find it more respectful to at least try to pronounce foreign words correctly. Sure I'll mangle it most of the time, but I prefer someone absolutely destroying a german word over just pronouncing it like an english one. Which is still destroying it, but in a way that feels worse to me because it just feels careless.

    I think my biggest pet peeve is when localized place names suggest a wrong pronunciation for no reason whatsoever. Like the german spelling for Tokyo is "Tokio" when just spelling it tokyo (or even tokjo to make it german-fied) would suggest a much more natural pronunciation that is also a syllable shorter.

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  • [–] 2 points 18 hours ago

    Yeah its really nice when you hear someone at least trying. Like i agree that hungarian having the opposite of polish with "sz" being pronounced as english "s" and "s" being english "sh" is stupid, its still nice to hear someone saying a hungarian name correctly. Another case like this is when someone makes a whole video about a politician, being Magyar Péter in this case and they keep pronouncing it as "mag-i-ar" which would take two seconds to look up and find out is incorrect. Of course im not expecting an english speaker to produce a completely accurate voiced palatal affricate but at least pronouncing is "madar", "magar" or best case "majar"(j as in jungle) would be much more correct. As for the Tokyo thing, same in hungarian. Its pronounced as tokijoo basically(written as Tokió) when hungarian is completely capable of having tookjoo(tókjó would be the written form in this case). Like our syllables can actually be pretty complex ane are basically a superset of japanese, why dont use that to pronounce things correctly?

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  • [–] 2 points 18 hours ago

    I think the response might have to do with the feeling "oh my god, this person is pronouncing Barcelona correctly and differently from how I pronounce it. How should I now continue this conversation? Should I imitate what they're saying or just ignorantly continue to use the wrong pronunciation. You know what, I lose either way. I better just make fun of them"

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  • [–] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

    I assumed it was the Spanish accent or formal way of saying sss sounds? I remember when we learned spanish in school, we would use th when speaking the dialect from Spain.

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  • [–] 2 points 17 hours ago

    Uhhh its complicated. Technically the official pronounciation in spain is the "th" version but many speakers say it with an "s" instead especially in southern spain. And then most other places outside of spain also say it with an "s". But for example i lived in catalonia where as far as i know everyone says it with a "th" so thats why i pronounce it that way. There is some elitism in people who pronounce it that way even in among spanish speakers.

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