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There is no censorship in Ba Sing Se (media.piefed.zip)
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Edit: Seems like the Mod-Logs are public, so it’s not ‚secretly‘. My preferred mobile app doesn’t show this and for me the post just disappeared from my history.

Anyway, the breach of rule I allegedly did is obviously an excuse to block inconvenient opinions as it’s not at all related.

There is no censorship in Ba Sing Se
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[–] 3 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

I'm not going to weigh in on if the post removal/ban is justified because it's not my community and I'm not a mod. But if you didn't know about the mod log, you may not know you've been banned before. Personally, I'm a lot less gracious when people repeatedly break rules:

https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=25682582

There are two rule #1, one for the community and one for the instance so, it seems reasonable to message the mod and ask for clarification if you feel it is unjust.

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  • [–] [S] 0 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

    That’s the interesting part. I was informed about the deleted comments and temporary bans in the past that were based on my comments (Imperialism is bad, doesn’t matter if done by USA or Russia or anyone else). Now there was no info about deleting my posts. However, it seems I was shadow banned from the whole community now, because I can’t see it anymore. Other communities on Lemmy.ml are still available for me, so it was just a personal problem with the local mods.

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  • [–] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

    Shadow bans are when you can see and post but no one else can see your posts.

    I'm not sure what you mean about no info about deleting posts? My understanding is a ban will not necessarily stop you from seeing the community, but it does unsubscribe you. There is an option to remove posts/comments when banning someone. I can't speak to what would cause you to not be able to view the community at all. Do you want to post a screenshot to trouble shoot?

    I can still your see older comments in the community. The screenshot is meant to demonstrate how you can search for them as well, it's not the only comment there.

    (I don't have a .ml account, so I'm not logged in but I am searching directly from the lemmy.ml web interface because sometimes federation means searching from one's own instance is a bit behind.)

    If I understand what you have said in this thread, you posted once and it disappeared (corresponding to the "removed posts" mod log) and then you posted it again. I'm assuming that's what the ban was about, and the ban could also remove the post.

    We're both just speculating. I think if you want certainty, it would be a good idea to message the mods or the instance admin for more info.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 12 hours ago* (3 children)

    I don’t care so much for being part of this community, if those mods act like that. Not worth to discuss with them. However it’s interesting to experience the different types of bans and blocks.

    In the past I was temporary banned. I saw the comments, but I couldn’t write any new ones for a while.

    Yesterday my post was deleted without me getting any notification about it. The second post was different and the same happened. Still I was able to see the community. Now it’s not part of my joined communities anymore and if I search for it it doesn’t appear in the results. (You are right, shadow ban wasn’t the right terminology.) But it’s limited to the community, not to lemmy.ml because I still can see and join other communities there.

    As previously mentioned, I’m on my phone (Blorp App), so it’s maybe different in the web browser.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    In the past I was temporary banned. I saw the comments, but I couldn’t write any new ones for a while.

    This does say temp ban too. Looks like it was for 7 days originally.

    Totally get you aren't eager to be involved with the community but my brain won't let go of the unexpected behavior following the ban so I did a little test for myself. There is never any pressure to respond to a comment but I hope this won't be unwelcome. I'm also sharing it it case it helps others. This isn't meant as a "gotcha", no judgment for it not being worth the effort in your end to figure it out. I block instances and comms without hesitation because I don't like being angry lol

    My first Lemmy account was on .world, so I still have that and I am mod to a now dead community.

    I made a post in the comm from this account and I banned myself, selecting the delete content option as well. You can see that in the mod log:

    (This looks different than the other screenshots I have shared because I figured out I could see the log in the Boost app lol)

    So then I tried searching for the community from this account and it didn't show up in search until I hit enter (i.e. the predictive list didn't include it)

    But I couldn't make a new post:

    I didn't get a notification or anything, so I can see why that's annoying for sure.

    In the web UI I can see I'm banned if I look at the sidebar:

    But no such luck in the Boost app:

    Mods also can't unban people unless they still have access to the post/comment they banned them for...which isn't easy if you removed the post, so I guess I'm staying banned lol.

    Anyways, You might try searching !memes@lemmy.ml, checking your own block list or yeah, checking the web interface. It could also be a federation issue which the ! in front of the comm name might help with.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Searching with the ! in front doesn’t change anything.

    I opened the web browser without login and watched the modlog. Interestingly I can see the first blocked post there and also the ban, but not the second post that made me banned. So probably that’s because they pressed ‚delete and ban‘.

    Also what I don’t like about the architecture is that it doesn’t show who moderated. If Lemmy/PieFed become bigger it could be good to see if it’s only one specific Mod blocking everything they don’t like or if all the mods have the same opinion. That would make it easier to understand what the reason for blocking/banning was. For sure I can also see a problem in massive spam to an account if it’s visible…

    I’m sorry for your account test ban. But it expires in 7 days. Then you will be fine again. In this regard I also discovered that Blorp App can also show the Modlog… well, at least in theory. I had a hard time finding the community at all. But when I did, the Modlog is empty.


    In Web it looks like this:

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