Edit: Seems like the Mod-Logs are public, so it’s not ‚secretly‘. My preferred mobile app doesn’t show this and for me the post just disappeared from my history.

Anyway, the breach of rule I allegedly did is obviously an excuse to block inconvenient opinions as it’s not at all related.

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[–] 23 points 1 day ago (19 children)

Marxist-Leninist groups have been captured by Russian and Chinese state interests for decades. I've been hearing "you can't be a leftist if you're not against NATO" since Geocities was a thing.

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  • [+] -23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (17 children)

    Yes of course, the only possible reason to criticize the geopolitical bloc behind 75 years of wars, coups, terrorism and genocide is "state capture"

    Have you also failed to notice that local leftists were the target of these operations approximately 100% of the time?

    Funny how this "regime change" never seems to find it's way to right-wing military dictatorships (unless they oppose the zionist colony of course)

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (13 children)

    the only possible reason

    Get a better straw man lmao

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  • [–] -3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (12 children)

    TIL strawmanning is when you do reducio ad absurdum, apparently

    Did the original comment leave open an alternative possibility to "state capture" as to why people would question The Righteous Narrative?

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  • [–] 4 points 21 hours ago (11 children)

    Go on then, tell me how what I quoted is a logical consequence of the original post. You know, as a reductio would go, if that's what it were.

    I'll brb as I have no popcorn.

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  • [–] -4 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (10 children)

    I will gladly do so

    Argument analysis:

    Explicit Premise:

    I've been hearing "you can't be a leftist if you're not against NATO" since Geocities was a thing.

    Unstated major premise (laughably false):

    There do not exist legitimate critiques against the NATO bloc

    Conclusion:

    [therefore] Marxist-Leninist groups have been captured by Russian and Chinese state interests for decades.

    My response:

    Parent commenter absurdly acts as if there is no other explanation, which is ludicrous. Parent comment likely commits "falacy of the missing middle" with the missing premise also being the most obviously false one. The great thing about a reducio is how it cuts through all that noise

    Hope this helps

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  • [–] 1 point 18 hours ago (9 children)

    The missing part of this is how you decided that the "unstated" "premise" is a premise at all.

    You didn't show how it follows logically from the op's statement so you failed. How predictable, all this popcorn was for nothing

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  • [–] 0 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (8 children)

    Ok Captain Logic, show us your deconstruction of the argument and how it's logically sound since you didn't engage with mine at all

    I'm especially interested in how you believe the argument should move from the single premise to the very distant conclusion without a missing premise

    I predict that instead of actually analyzing the argument formally you will "Nuh-uh!", then declare victory like you have done multiple previous times in this thread

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  • [–] 0 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

    I engaged with yours sufficiently to establish it's bollocks, which is enough for me. See ya!

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago (5 children)

    Given you added your "prediction" at the same time as I made reply it's not much of a prediction. But yeah no, I'm not here to defend the original argument, I'm here to debunk morons.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago (4 children)

    Debunking is when you don't even understand the concept of a missing major premise and then act superior apparently

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago (3 children)

    Failing logic is when you describe "missing premise" as "reductio ad absurdum".

    Failing languages is when you interpret a light-hearted comment as a logic exercise.

    Both at the same time is... special!

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

    Continuing with the supreme confidence of the ignorant

    Reducio was my counter move, the missing major premise is one of the possible diagnoses of informal fallacy that would apply to the original comment

    Being a pompous prat is picking a logic fight, misusing and misunderstanding the terminology, then pretending that you were aloof the whole time

    It's pretty obvious that you lack the fundamental capability to break down an argument in formal terms, but you chose to use sophistries and sockpuppet votes instead of just frankly admitting your ignorance

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