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[–] 6 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

The only wedge this drives though is with the vast masses against the corporatist zionist wing of the party....which IMO is the energy people need to keep up.

I don't know of any meaningful constituency of voters that is out there angry that people are getting mad at Hailey Stevens for making her dreams of Israel come true and up and leaving, or Nancy Pelosi ironically skipping the vote to end an illegal and unjust war to get a lifetime achievement award from a veterans organization.

If I missed a crucial meeting at my work that was pivotal for positioning the future of the company, I would expect to reprimanded far more consequentially than some mean words.

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  • [–] -4 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

    Sadly, progressives will have to work with corpo dems to make anything happen. At least it's possible to sway them...

    It's not possible to sway the Repubs in Congress for the most part.

    I'm sorry we don't live in an ideal world but these type of news articles produce apathy, which is the enemy of progress.

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  • [–] 4 points 19 hours ago* (1 child)

    And the way you change that overton window and shift those pressures leftward is thru sustained outside pressure

    Corporate Dems have no real incentive to betray their actual constituents, donors, especially when their former main lovers(tech oligarchs and Israel) are sending all the signals their pocketbooks will open back up for them if they play nice, and if voters as a whole just go back to brunch, guess who easily wins that influence battle?

    So while there is a type of corporate media propaganda that I think undermines the left, this is one of those rare instances I think this sort of coverage is actually helping. As it is keeping focus on who the villains inside the tent are and that they can't be trusted(which they can't). And right now they are banking on people going quiet and falling in line so they can maneuver behind the scenes and preserve their power and the status quo dynamic.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

    Ah yes, the good ol' Centrist war cry of "But Repbulicans are mean so let's not try at all!".

    Maybe stop being a coward always worrying about what Republicans will do and worry about what Democrats should do.

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  • [–] 1 point 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

    I've said nothing to do with whatever you are arguing about.

    Your anger at me is my point exactly

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 17 hours ago (2 children)

    I read your second line as the indicating why centrists would be not passing things progressives would be proposing.

    If that's not what your intent was then I do apologize.

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  • [–] 1 point 17 hours ago (1 child)

    Oh no, I wasn't trying to be an apologist for Democrats, sorry for making that unclear. My point was we have to work with this trash (Corpo Dems ™️ ) because the other trash (GOP) is probably going to be a stonewall. In response to where the "wedge" is in Nola's reply.

    They all need to be held accountable.

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