Ahmed Moor, a Palestinian American, said he would run in a primary to be the Democratic nominee in 2028

John Fetterman, the maverick Democratic senator who has provoked widespread anger by increasingly siding with Republicans, is to be challenged for his Pennsylvania seat by a democratic socialist candidate who is originally from Gaza.

Ahmed Moor, a Palestinian American, said he would run in a primary to be the Democratic nominee in 2028, when Fetterman’s seat is up for re-election.

The move is the first sign of Fetterman’s weakened position in the party since the Democrats won back control of the Senate in last week’s US midterm elections, when the party won at least 54 of the upper chamber’s 100 seats.

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[–] 13 points 14 hours ago (11 children)

I feel like the DSA is currently the left's tea party and I'm all for it.

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  • [–] 13 points 13 hours ago* (3 children)

    Except the Tea Party was astroturfed as fuck, by big GOP donors.

    This isn't.

    I know this, because I was once a Ron Paul Republican. End the Fed, Stop the Wars, that kinda thing. They co-opted that movement, at the time.

    They saw the 4chan driven 'money bombs' timed to coincide with reporting on campaign funding level announcements, and that Paul's campaign was literally self organizing... just a random organization sprung up, rented a fucking blimp, put Ron Paul ads on it, and flew it around the country.

    This had nothing to do with Paul's own campaign organization.

    It was literally just some guys.

    The GOP saw that kind of enthusiasm and then aped it, co-opted it, re-directed it, and called that the Tea Party.

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  • [–] 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    That's really interesting! I remember the rallies and the Glen Beck "progressives" panic when Obama was elected. Trash all around!

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    Doublepost but:

    https://www.wired.com/2007/12/ron-paul-blim-1/

    Yeah this was all the way back when Twitch was still Justin.tv, and I think YouTube still owned YouTube, not Google.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2007/12/ron-paul-blimp-charts-unprecedented-course-007245

    This was... also pre-Citizens United, so... basically you as a person couldn't contribute over $250 without gasp regulatory scrutiny.

    Oh how times have changed lol.

    But yeah, they literally dumped tea bags over 'targets', from this ridiculous blimp. That's what caught on and then was later reappropriated as the 'Tea Party'.

    This would have been around the same time cable news gave us 'The Mysterious Hacker Known As 4chan'.

    We had people basically photobombing pretty much just any live news cast about anything with people screaming or chanting something about Ron Paul, because cable news was barely if at all even mentioning he was even in the Republican primary.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=mOhRd8yUs8w

    And heres Ron Paulites surrounding Sean Hannity and telling him he sucks:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=p5rJI5e0jBU

    Also just overwhelming state GOP conventions.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=UwHXbmaA80w

    ... a self organizing insurgent/guerilla political campaign, that Paul himself had very little control over. We refused to be ignored.

    In the end though, the GOP ratfucked us, after Romney won the nomination.

    Myself, I learn more things, over time, change my views on a lot of things... Bernie is now my guy.

    The Democrats then ratfuck Bernie even harder than the Republicans ratfucked Paul.

    But now, with this BluNami... maybe, maybe the will of the people can finally be enacted.

    Fuck Chuck Schumer and fuck Hakeem Jefferies, and turbomegaultrafuck every MAGA fascist.

    EDIT:

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=-pD-KCfdGKY

    Oh well would you look at that, that explains a lot.

    Peter Thiel, self-described "Definitely NOT the AntiChrist" played a large role in all this getting turned inside out.

    Why am I not surprised?

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago (6 children)

    That’s a really bad and uninformed take.

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  • [–] 4 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

    Most here understand that the Tea Party was astroturfed — arguably the very first movement to fully take advantage of Citizens United v. FEC.

    That said, I understand their sentiment.

    There is a way to push the buttons of populism for good, and Democrats are doing so. Except this time, it's a genuine grassroots movement, not necessarily requiring the Epstein Class of billionaires to bankroll them.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago* (4 children)

    That’s why I’m saying it’s the opposite of the tea party movement. And entire party based on manufactured lies and bankrolled by the Koch’s. The entire ensamble of the “grass roots movement” was made up by weekend warriors who could barley read let alone know what the fuck 1776 was about or what’s in the constitution. I could understand their sentiment if they said it was the opposite of what the tea party was.

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  • [–] 1 point 10 hours ago* (3 children)

    Doesn't seem that black-and-white to me. The movement was catalyzed by the likes of the Koch Brothers, but it did ultimately become somewhat self-sustaining. Tea Party did become maga after all. Both represent populist movements relative to their end of the political spectrum, which means they can't really be opposite in this respect.

    That doesn't mean they are equidistant from truth in a false equivalence fallacy; both are wrought from a dissatisfaction with the status-quo and corruption in Washington ("Drain the Swamp"). It's just that one is Left, and one is wrong in their approach to the solutions.

    Though I get that we don't want to necessarily associate such a movement at all with the Tea Party from a marketing standpoint, as that's often a comparison made in bad faith in corporate media.

    Side note, but my what Occupy Wall Street could've become had it had the same sort of catalysts and party-backing....

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  • [–] 2 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    Occupy could have changed the course of the world is Dems had sacked up and not been corporate shills.

    The “movement” wasn’t just catalyzed by the Koch’s it was manufactured and bankrolled. It was “self sustaining” until the money ran out and Donald Trump appeared on the scene and mutated the whole thing into the murder hate treason cult that started to attract people hithrto had nothing to do with politics until the tea party turned into the kill and imprisons people I don’t like because they are different and I’m an idiot party which was really the tag line all along; violent xenophobia and racism. I remember it’s beginning and transformation into maga. And throughout the entire way it has been propped up by prominent monied business leaders the entire way through. It literally shares nothing in common with the progressive movement and comparing the two as like with like is not only disingenuous but revisionist.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    I was pretty involved in my local city's protest on this and I mostly agree with respect to Occupy. I think they were so shy and naive; Obama's tepid approval was the best they got, but even back then we know who controlled the airwaves — especially two years post-CU decision. Democrats felt like they were in a good spot and sealed the deal for years to come and we just had to "be patient," but you know how that went... Pissed me off. No use of bully pulpit to pressure from the top left right-wing media to do its thing and eviscerate the movement.

    Worth noting that Trump was there since the early days of the Tea Party; I remember arguing with Tea Party members about how Trump was right about Obama's birth certificate. He was an enormous catalyst to that conspiracy theory bullshit as well. They were always the same people sadly.

    I think we're talking past each other slightly on this. Nobody -- literally nobody -- disputes that Tea Party platform is polar-opposite to the demands of even SocDems let alone DemSocs; we're just stating that the astroturfing worked because it tapped into a dried kindling already yearning for ignition. Catalysts aside; platform aside, both are populist movements who reshaped the broader party and suppressed moderates in their own party. Where Tea Party moved Republicans right, DSA can move Democrats Left. That's pretty much where the similarities begin and end I'll agree.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 hours ago*

    I remember the correspondents dinner or whatever it was where he clowned Donald Trump. I was much much younger then but it was like gangs of suburban dads roaming around with guns and total psychopaths. I don’t know if I would call it a populist movement because the whole thing was, in my opinion, and fever backlash to a president being black. I men the party just didn’t make any fucking sense.

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