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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (8 children)

That’s one potential indirect result of taxation, but their wealth is unnecessary to provision the components of a society. The reason to tax billionaires is because no one should be tolerated hoarding that level of wealth.

They should be euthanised because they shouldn’t exist.

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 days ago (7 children)

The reason to tax billionaires is because no one should be tolerated hoarding that level of wealth.

The reason liberals love chanting "tax the rich!" is because it sounds good while posing zero threat to billionaires in any way whatsoever.

The only way to break the power of billionaires is through public infrastructure - the pharma bros can't make profit off medicines if it's being manufactured publicly, for instance.

The technocratic left and the libertarian left can spend all day arguing how public infrastructure should be run, but the one thing both understands is that the only correct course is public infrastructure.

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[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 1 point 4 days ago (6 children)

I’m not saying we should merely ‘tax the rich’, I’m arguing the rich should be eliminated through taxation. It’s also merely an opening salvo of what needs to be done to correct the debased social structures we currently inhabit, which I consider your suggestion to be complementary and compounding to mine. They’re both necessary, but individually they’re insufficient.

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I’m arguing the rich should be eliminated through taxation.

What's the point of trying to tickle them out of existence? If you can break their power - for which we already have a tried-and-tested economic mechanism (ie, the aforementioned public infrastructure) - why not just expropriate all their ill-gotten private property?

Attempting to tax them will achieve nothing except giving them ample time and opportunity to use their wealth to poke a million-and-one holes in your tax laws - which, surprise, surprise, they already do on a daily basis.

As I said before... when liberals start peddling something as a (supposed) "solution" it's a pretty sure fire bet that it's absolutely nothing of the sort.

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[–] thinkingofyouihaveananxietydisorder 1 point 4 days ago (3 children)

it would be much easier to kill them than tax them. why not do it? its not like they aren't all guilty.

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 4 days ago (2 children)

it would be much easier to kill them than tax them.

And who will be doing all that killing?

You?

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[–] thinkingofyouihaveananxietydisorder 1 point 3 days ago (1 child)

who will make sure they actually pay that tax? you?

violence is required either way. we pay the same price for gold or pyrite. why not take gold?

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[–] therealdries@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 3 days ago

who will make sure they actually pay that tax? you?

Maybe check who it is that you are replying to.

~~violence~~ force is required either way.

FTFY.

why not take gold?

You haven't answered the question - who will be doing all the killing?

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[–] thinkingofyouihaveananxietydisorder 0 points 4 days ago

that would've been enough if carter had passed it in his second term, but their crimes and the way they have shaped society to benefit them demand retribution. the rich need to be killed, the systems are all theirs and cannot be trusted to handle them gently but firmly.

the only answer sane coherent they have left for ourvsurvival is their extermination.