▲ 109 ▼ Victoria man pushes for Canada to go fully metric (cheknews.ca) submitted 1 day ago by ehxor@lemmy.ca to c/britishcolumbia@lemmy.ca 50 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (9 children) You don't buy much lumber I guess. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (8 children) 2x4 is just a name/label now. They haven't been those inch dimensions in a very long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) It may not be 2" by 4" but go try to buy a 38mm by 89mm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago That's what I mean, it has become a label, rather than a size. Like how a #10 drill bit is 0.19" permalink fedilink source parent [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 22 hours ago (5 children) That's not a shrinkflation thing, that's a nominal vs. finished size. A 2x4 has been 1.5x3.5 since planed lumber has been a thing, well over a century. You can still buy roughcut 2x6 that are really 2"x6". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (4 children) Did you see the picture. Original 2x4 was 2inch x 4inch. Then there was the planing in the middle, then the even smaller planing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago* (3 children) Yes. And I'm explaining for anyone thinking this picture represents some sort of reality of the enshittification of finished lumber that nominal is not finished and graded size and hasn't been since 1919. The 2x4 (rough) has had a finished size of 1.5x3.5 for well over a century, there was a very brief time it was standardized at 1-5/8x 3-5/8 but that was a pain in the ass for carpenters and mills. You can still buy unplaned lumber that is the full 2x4 or 2x6 dimensions, but it's ungraded and not suitable for anything but fences. It will not pass a building inspection. This picture isn't saying anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago (2 children) The picture shows an original 2x4, then the planed downsize later on, and then a modern further reduction to get more boards out of a log. Its not enshitification in our current world we live in, but shows how you get less wood these days. But my original point never mentioned enshitification, I was just showing that a 2x4 is a label, because the sizes changed over time and we call it the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child) The photo is misleading though. In the 60s they decided to go with a 1.5"x3.5". Not 2023 as the photo might make you believe, or make you think today's lumber is actually less than 1.5x3.5.. it's a bad photo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago Yeah its end of not start of...the last one doesn't need a date. Probably when the person created the text onvthr image permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (8 children) 2x4 is just a name/label now. They haven't been those inch dimensions in a very long time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) It may not be 2" by 4" but go try to buy a 38mm by 89mm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago That's what I mean, it has become a label, rather than a size. Like how a #10 drill bit is 0.19" permalink fedilink source parent [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 22 hours ago (5 children) That's not a shrinkflation thing, that's a nominal vs. finished size. A 2x4 has been 1.5x3.5 since planed lumber has been a thing, well over a century. You can still buy roughcut 2x6 that are really 2"x6". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (4 children) Did you see the picture. Original 2x4 was 2inch x 4inch. Then there was the planing in the middle, then the even smaller planing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago* (3 children) Yes. And I'm explaining for anyone thinking this picture represents some sort of reality of the enshittification of finished lumber that nominal is not finished and graded size and hasn't been since 1919. The 2x4 (rough) has had a finished size of 1.5x3.5 for well over a century, there was a very brief time it was standardized at 1-5/8x 3-5/8 but that was a pain in the ass for carpenters and mills. You can still buy unplaned lumber that is the full 2x4 or 2x6 dimensions, but it's ungraded and not suitable for anything but fences. It will not pass a building inspection. This picture isn't saying anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago (2 children) The picture shows an original 2x4, then the planed downsize later on, and then a modern further reduction to get more boards out of a log. Its not enshitification in our current world we live in, but shows how you get less wood these days. But my original point never mentioned enshitification, I was just showing that a 2x4 is a label, because the sizes changed over time and we call it the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child) The photo is misleading though. In the 60s they decided to go with a 1.5"x3.5". Not 2023 as the photo might make you believe, or make you think today's lumber is actually less than 1.5x3.5.. it's a bad photo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago Yeah its end of not start of...the last one doesn't need a date. Probably when the person created the text onvthr image permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 child) It may not be 2" by 4" but go try to buy a 38mm by 89mm permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago That's what I mean, it has become a label, rather than a size. Like how a #10 drill bit is 0.19" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago That's what I mean, it has become a label, rather than a size. Like how a #10 drill bit is 0.19" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 22 hours ago (5 children) That's not a shrinkflation thing, that's a nominal vs. finished size. A 2x4 has been 1.5x3.5 since planed lumber has been a thing, well over a century. You can still buy roughcut 2x6 that are really 2"x6". permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (4 children) Did you see the picture. Original 2x4 was 2inch x 4inch. Then there was the planing in the middle, then the even smaller planing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago* (3 children) Yes. And I'm explaining for anyone thinking this picture represents some sort of reality of the enshittification of finished lumber that nominal is not finished and graded size and hasn't been since 1919. The 2x4 (rough) has had a finished size of 1.5x3.5 for well over a century, there was a very brief time it was standardized at 1-5/8x 3-5/8 but that was a pain in the ass for carpenters and mills. You can still buy unplaned lumber that is the full 2x4 or 2x6 dimensions, but it's ungraded and not suitable for anything but fences. It will not pass a building inspection. This picture isn't saying anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago (2 children) The picture shows an original 2x4, then the planed downsize later on, and then a modern further reduction to get more boards out of a log. Its not enshitification in our current world we live in, but shows how you get less wood these days. But my original point never mentioned enshitification, I was just showing that a 2x4 is a label, because the sizes changed over time and we call it the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child) The photo is misleading though. In the 60s they decided to go with a 1.5"x3.5". Not 2023 as the photo might make you believe, or make you think today's lumber is actually less than 1.5x3.5.. it's a bad photo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago Yeah its end of not start of...the last one doesn't need a date. Probably when the person created the text onvthr image permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (4 children) Did you see the picture. Original 2x4 was 2inch x 4inch. Then there was the planing in the middle, then the even smaller planing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago* (3 children) Yes. And I'm explaining for anyone thinking this picture represents some sort of reality of the enshittification of finished lumber that nominal is not finished and graded size and hasn't been since 1919. The 2x4 (rough) has had a finished size of 1.5x3.5 for well over a century, there was a very brief time it was standardized at 1-5/8x 3-5/8 but that was a pain in the ass for carpenters and mills. You can still buy unplaned lumber that is the full 2x4 or 2x6 dimensions, but it's ungraded and not suitable for anything but fences. It will not pass a building inspection. This picture isn't saying anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago (2 children) The picture shows an original 2x4, then the planed downsize later on, and then a modern further reduction to get more boards out of a log. Its not enshitification in our current world we live in, but shows how you get less wood these days. But my original point never mentioned enshitification, I was just showing that a 2x4 is a label, because the sizes changed over time and we call it the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child) The photo is misleading though. In the 60s they decided to go with a 1.5"x3.5". Not 2023 as the photo might make you believe, or make you think today's lumber is actually less than 1.5x3.5.. it's a bad photo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago Yeah its end of not start of...the last one doesn't need a date. Probably when the person created the text onvthr image permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 21 hours ago* (3 children) Yes. And I'm explaining for anyone thinking this picture represents some sort of reality of the enshittification of finished lumber that nominal is not finished and graded size and hasn't been since 1919. The 2x4 (rough) has had a finished size of 1.5x3.5 for well over a century, there was a very brief time it was standardized at 1-5/8x 3-5/8 but that was a pain in the ass for carpenters and mills. You can still buy unplaned lumber that is the full 2x4 or 2x6 dimensions, but it's ungraded and not suitable for anything but fences. It will not pass a building inspection. This picture isn't saying anything useful. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago (2 children) The picture shows an original 2x4, then the planed downsize later on, and then a modern further reduction to get more boards out of a log. Its not enshitification in our current world we live in, but shows how you get less wood these days. But my original point never mentioned enshitification, I was just showing that a 2x4 is a label, because the sizes changed over time and we call it the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child) The photo is misleading though. In the 60s they decided to go with a 1.5"x3.5". Not 2023 as the photo might make you believe, or make you think today's lumber is actually less than 1.5x3.5.. it's a bad photo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago Yeah its end of not start of...the last one doesn't need a date. Probably when the person created the text onvthr image permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 point 19 hours ago (2 children) The picture shows an original 2x4, then the planed downsize later on, and then a modern further reduction to get more boards out of a log. Its not enshitification in our current world we live in, but shows how you get less wood these days. But my original point never mentioned enshitification, I was just showing that a 2x4 is a label, because the sizes changed over time and we call it the same. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child) The photo is misleading though. In the 60s they decided to go with a 1.5"x3.5". Not 2023 as the photo might make you believe, or make you think today's lumber is actually less than 1.5x3.5.. it's a bad photo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago Yeah its end of not start of...the last one doesn't need a date. Probably when the person created the text onvthr image permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Policeshootout@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 child) The photo is misleading though. In the 60s they decided to go with a 1.5"x3.5". Not 2023 as the photo might make you believe, or make you think today's lumber is actually less than 1.5x3.5.. it's a bad photo. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago Yeah its end of not start of...the last one doesn't need a date. Probably when the person created the text onvthr image permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago Yeah its end of not start of...the last one doesn't need a date. Probably when the person created the text onvthr image permalink fedilink source parent