Found on imgur, not my OC. But I just had to share.

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[–] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

There was an arc in the webcomic Girl Genius (highly recommended, by the way) where a couple of the characters were in a tight spot in a dungeon somewhere. Surrounded by bad guys and running thin on options. So one of them pulled out a wine-bottle-sized glass bottle labeled "bottled ocean". (I might be getting one or two small details wrong, but stay with me here.) He threw it on the ground and a big-ass tidal wave worth of water emerged and swept the characters, along with a bunch of the bad guys, all the way out of the dungeon. It was quite perilous, of course. (There was a chance they could bang into a lot of shit on the way, for instance.) Definitely a reckless move. But it worked, carrying the characters to safety. Risky, but an ace-in-the-hole if you really need it.

I was DM'ing a Pathfinder game at the time, and of course I had to make sure my PC's got a "bottled ocean" in their inventory.

(My version, rather than stoppered, was fully sealed. Like, an ampule rather than a wine bottle. Still wine-bottle-sized, though. And my version had a label on it that said "bottled ocean.")

Upon receiving it, they reasoned that if it was a "bottled ocean", it must be under tremendous pressure. They decided they'd try to construct a "gun" out of it. Mount the ampule in the gun, somehow (very carefully?) drill a small hole in the bottle, and rig a trigger to where they could open the "hole" on command. They figured with the amount of pressure it was under, it would create a stream strong enough to cut through enemies. Like an industrial CNC water cutting machine. Or like that one puppet-master Akatsuki guy from near the beginning of Naruto Shippuden who used high-pressure water jets as a weapon.

They never made good on their threat to try to engineer such a thing. Never used the "bottled ocean" for any other purpose either. But I had to admire their creativity.

Had they succeeded in making such a gun (and it would definitely have involved a pretty high roll), I might have ruled that even if it worked, the shooter would have to roll a... maybe athletics check or be pushed back, say, 5 feet in the direction opposite the direction they fired. (Unless maybe there was a sufficiently strong wall or whatever behind them, or unless they were prone. Maybe make that 10 or even 15 feet if fired by a small creature.)

Edit: Found the specific Girl Genius comic where the "bottled ocean" (or as the source called it, "ocean in a bottle" -- I misremembered) was mentioned: https://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20030827 . That one and the next three or four show how it's used.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I might have ruled that even if it worked, the shooter would have to roll a... maybe athletics check or be pushed back, say, 5 feet in the direction opposite the direction they fired

    That's sad, considering they would have gone to all that effort for a one time use ability.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Who said anything about one-time use? I had in mind a one-time-use item (an "oh shit, we're in a tight spot and need a big emergency 'abort' button, even if even that option is risky" sort of item) when I gave it to them, but I definitely wouldn't have made what they came up with a one-time-use item. (Unless they rolled relatively low on the process of engineering the gun in the first place, in which case I might have been like "yeah, you've got something that you think will probably work like maybe once, but you're not confident it would work more than like once or twice without failing catastrophically".) Probably a roughly infinite number of uses. (Unless they, like, propped it on a rock and left it "on" over a long rest or whatever.)

    I figured they had an "ocean" worth of water. (Well, as I mentioned in another comment in this thread, I think it would be reasonable to make it well less than a literal ocean, but still, a fuckton.) And they'd be firing in like less-than-6-second bursts. They'd have to shoot that thing a lot of times to exhaust its water stores enough to start losing pressure.

    And, just to be clear, what I had in mind was a very narrow and high-pressure stream that would do a shit-ton of... I dunno, slashing(?)... damage to enemies. Maybe even cutting holes through one guy and doing damage to the guy behind that guy if the enemies happened to be lined up (or if the PC wanted to orchestrate that). But such a powerful weapon would need drawbacks, I'd think. Like maybe a minus to the dex roll to hit? Or even disadvantage on the roll to hit. Plus the whole pushes-the-shooter-back thing would be interesting in some situations. (Could even be used strategically. Even if you missed, maybe this would avoid attacks of opportunity because you didn't move out of melee range. You were pushed by the force of the water? Maybe?)

    (Also, to be fair, I'm thinking in 5e rules here and the original campaign in which I introduced this item was PF1e. Anyway.)

    Anyway, what I'm getting at is that I never had one-use in mind for what they came up with. And it sounds like you might have thought I was saying its only effect would be to push the shooter back or something. Not at all what I meant.

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  • Ah yeah, that's what your original comment sounded like it was getting at.

    I was thinking 'one time use' because the ampule seemed like it would have been a consumable to me, puncture once then gone. Guess it's one of those things that needs a spec sheet to know what everybody has in mind :D

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