▲ 280 ▼ Valve "played capitalism so well they broke it" and now Steam can never be replaced, former Epic dev says: "I don't think this is fixable" (www.gamesradar.com) submitted 5 days ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 221 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Zykino@programming.dev 1 point 4 days ago (5 children) Is GoG immune? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago For a while, maybe? It's very tempting to sell out, and most people succumb. permalink fedilink source parent [–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (3 children) Not entirely, but they're focused on delivering DRM free copies for your purchases. So if they were to pivot and revoke your library, that part is impossible if you've downloaded your DRM free installation files. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zykino@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) Do you keep an up to date copy of all your games installers? I have some games on GoG. But when I wanted to install games, I got their launcher installer. You need to go through some dark path to find the true installer. At least it was the case a couple years back. Also a few month ago they putted an announce to hire someone to lead the Galaxy launcher. They explicitly asked for someone that would push the use of AI in their team. I fear the moment they gain enough traction, the game won't be as easy to install DRM free. Their launcher will be the DRM, just like steam. So yeah, they provide an escape hatch for now, but sadly other than that it looks to me they are more like Epic than Valve. I have not much trust for them. (Maybe Humble Bundle stopping to provide DRM free download of the game + the steam key eaeliy on made me very skeptical of this?) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loreng@beehaw.org 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) You need to go through some dark path to find the true installer. At least it was the case a couple years back. No? Literally just go to your games page on the website, click the game, and "Download Offline Backup Game Installers" is right where it's been for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zykino@programming.dev 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) When you know you have DRM free installers on this store, and you "just" want to download them. Where do you click? The big blue button or the little > line that look like it is a title? It is exactly like the cookies popup that show front and center the "accept all" button, but hide in text at the top somewhere the "Continue without accepting cookies" link. For me to not call that a dark pattern you need to have the same visual language for both download: Both a big blue button ✅ Both a link ✅ One is a big blue button, the other is hidden behind some sort of title that don't look clickable? ❌ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TrackenDaKracken@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago For a while, maybe? It's very tempting to sell out, and most people succumb. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago (3 children) Not entirely, but they're focused on delivering DRM free copies for your purchases. So if they were to pivot and revoke your library, that part is impossible if you've downloaded your DRM free installation files. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Zykino@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) Do you keep an up to date copy of all your games installers? I have some games on GoG. But when I wanted to install games, I got their launcher installer. You need to go through some dark path to find the true installer. At least it was the case a couple years back. Also a few month ago they putted an announce to hire someone to lead the Galaxy launcher. They explicitly asked for someone that would push the use of AI in their team. I fear the moment they gain enough traction, the game won't be as easy to install DRM free. Their launcher will be the DRM, just like steam. So yeah, they provide an escape hatch for now, but sadly other than that it looks to me they are more like Epic than Valve. I have not much trust for them. (Maybe Humble Bundle stopping to provide DRM free download of the game + the steam key eaeliy on made me very skeptical of this?) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loreng@beehaw.org 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) You need to go through some dark path to find the true installer. At least it was the case a couple years back. No? Literally just go to your games page on the website, click the game, and "Download Offline Backup Game Installers" is right where it's been for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zykino@programming.dev 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) When you know you have DRM free installers on this store, and you "just" want to download them. Where do you click? The big blue button or the little > line that look like it is a title? It is exactly like the cookies popup that show front and center the "accept all" button, but hide in text at the top somewhere the "Continue without accepting cookies" link. For me to not call that a dark pattern you need to have the same visual language for both download: Both a big blue button ✅ Both a link ✅ One is a big blue button, the other is hidden behind some sort of title that don't look clickable? ❌ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zykino@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago (2 children) Do you keep an up to date copy of all your games installers? I have some games on GoG. But when I wanted to install games, I got their launcher installer. You need to go through some dark path to find the true installer. At least it was the case a couple years back. Also a few month ago they putted an announce to hire someone to lead the Galaxy launcher. They explicitly asked for someone that would push the use of AI in their team. I fear the moment they gain enough traction, the game won't be as easy to install DRM free. Their launcher will be the DRM, just like steam. So yeah, they provide an escape hatch for now, but sadly other than that it looks to me they are more like Epic than Valve. I have not much trust for them. (Maybe Humble Bundle stopping to provide DRM free download of the game + the steam key eaeliy on made me very skeptical of this?) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] loreng@beehaw.org 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) You need to go through some dark path to find the true installer. At least it was the case a couple years back. No? Literally just go to your games page on the website, click the game, and "Download Offline Backup Game Installers" is right where it's been for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zykino@programming.dev 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) When you know you have DRM free installers on this store, and you "just" want to download them. Where do you click? The big blue button or the little > line that look like it is a title? It is exactly like the cookies popup that show front and center the "accept all" button, but hide in text at the top somewhere the "Continue without accepting cookies" link. For me to not call that a dark pattern you need to have the same visual language for both download: Both a big blue button ✅ Both a link ✅ One is a big blue button, the other is hidden behind some sort of title that don't look clickable? ❌ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] loreng@beehaw.org 1 point 3 days ago (1 child) You need to go through some dark path to find the true installer. At least it was the case a couple years back. No? Literally just go to your games page on the website, click the game, and "Download Offline Backup Game Installers" is right where it's been for as long as I can remember. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zykino@programming.dev 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) When you know you have DRM free installers on this store, and you "just" want to download them. Where do you click? The big blue button or the little > line that look like it is a title? It is exactly like the cookies popup that show front and center the "accept all" button, but hide in text at the top somewhere the "Continue without accepting cookies" link. For me to not call that a dark pattern you need to have the same visual language for both download: Both a big blue button ✅ Both a link ✅ One is a big blue button, the other is hidden behind some sort of title that don't look clickable? ❌ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zykino@programming.dev 1 point 1 hour ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago) When you know you have DRM free installers on this store, and you "just" want to download them. Where do you click? The big blue button or the little > line that look like it is a title? It is exactly like the cookies popup that show front and center the "accept all" button, but hide in text at the top somewhere the "Continue without accepting cookies" link. For me to not call that a dark pattern you need to have the same visual language for both download: Both a big blue button ✅ Both a link ✅ One is a big blue button, the other is hidden behind some sort of title that don't look clickable? ❌ permalink fedilink source parent