▲ 1358 ▼ Proton users cancel subscriptions following CEO Andy Yen’s “loser thinking” remarks (cybernews.com) submitted 4 days ago by schizoidman@lemmy.zip to c/technology@lemmy.world 332 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub -31 points 3 days ago (9 children) Sorry dweebs, they're not even going to notice the dozens of you leaving. Commence downvotes. permalink fedilink source hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 20 points 3 days ago (3 children) This is the one product used by people who care enough to do something. We already moved from Google because we hate the monopolistic enshitification and want privacy. We will move again, this dumb shit ceo doesn't know his customer base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] melfie@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago Exactly. The only people willing to pay premium prices for privacy instead of surrendering their data to surveillance capitalists are people with a low tolerance for bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent [+] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub -15 points 3 days ago (1 child) This always happens with tech companies. You develop loyalty to the company and then become personally offended when they fail to meet your standards, and you assume that all other users are similar to you. Most of their revenue would be from corporate contracts. An infinitesimal portion of their revenue base is interested in this. If they cared about you the CEO wouldn't have said and done what he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Most of their revenue would be from corporate contracts. An infinitesimal portion of their revenue base is interested in this. Are you basing this on how you feel about Proton or actually have some reference/data to back it up? Proton is a heavily individual user subscription based company, calling business contracts most part of their revenue probably misses the mark by a large margin. The fact that they do PR and damage control on reddit all the time and pretend to care about public criticism just validates this more. To continue this more it seems Proton has about 50000 firms registered to its domain https://technologychecker.io/technology/proton-mail most of which seem like small business with less than 100 employees https://www.appsruntheworld.com/customers-database/products/view/protonmail where on individual level Proton has about 100mil accounts. That doesn't look minor to me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 15 points 3 days ago (2 children) It is like saying Trump wouldn't even notice you not voting for him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub -15 points 3 days ago (1 child) I don't argue in analogies. Trump isn't being elected. The difference is scale - there just aren't enough proton users who care about this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago* If there weren't Proton wouldn't be trying to do PR and damage control in reddit. Proton is small enough and not a large monopoly like google or microsoft is, there is more competition (which keeps shooting itself in the foot all the time but anyways...). So it can be affected by this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago Commence downvotes So brave. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago No no no, commence block, that's FAR more effective. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SleeplessCityLights@programming.dev 20 points 3 days ago (3 children) This is the one product used by people who care enough to do something. We already moved from Google because we hate the monopolistic enshitification and want privacy. We will move again, this dumb shit ceo doesn't know his customer base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] melfie@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago Exactly. The only people willing to pay premium prices for privacy instead of surrendering their data to surveillance capitalists are people with a low tolerance for bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent [+] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub -15 points 3 days ago (1 child) This always happens with tech companies. You develop loyalty to the company and then become personally offended when they fail to meet your standards, and you assume that all other users are similar to you. Most of their revenue would be from corporate contracts. An infinitesimal portion of their revenue base is interested in this. If they cared about you the CEO wouldn't have said and done what he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Most of their revenue would be from corporate contracts. An infinitesimal portion of their revenue base is interested in this. Are you basing this on how you feel about Proton or actually have some reference/data to back it up? Proton is a heavily individual user subscription based company, calling business contracts most part of their revenue probably misses the mark by a large margin. The fact that they do PR and damage control on reddit all the time and pretend to care about public criticism just validates this more. To continue this more it seems Proton has about 50000 firms registered to its domain https://technologychecker.io/technology/proton-mail most of which seem like small business with less than 100 employees https://www.appsruntheworld.com/customers-database/products/view/protonmail where on individual level Proton has about 100mil accounts. That doesn't look minor to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] melfie@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago Exactly. The only people willing to pay premium prices for privacy instead of surrendering their data to surveillance capitalists are people with a low tolerance for bullshit. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub -15 points 3 days ago (1 child) This always happens with tech companies. You develop loyalty to the company and then become personally offended when they fail to meet your standards, and you assume that all other users are similar to you. Most of their revenue would be from corporate contracts. An infinitesimal portion of their revenue base is interested in this. If they cared about you the CEO wouldn't have said and done what he has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Most of their revenue would be from corporate contracts. An infinitesimal portion of their revenue base is interested in this. Are you basing this on how you feel about Proton or actually have some reference/data to back it up? Proton is a heavily individual user subscription based company, calling business contracts most part of their revenue probably misses the mark by a large margin. The fact that they do PR and damage control on reddit all the time and pretend to care about public criticism just validates this more. To continue this more it seems Proton has about 50000 firms registered to its domain https://technologychecker.io/technology/proton-mail most of which seem like small business with less than 100 employees https://www.appsruntheworld.com/customers-database/products/view/protonmail where on individual level Proton has about 100mil accounts. That doesn't look minor to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) Most of their revenue would be from corporate contracts. An infinitesimal portion of their revenue base is interested in this. Are you basing this on how you feel about Proton or actually have some reference/data to back it up? Proton is a heavily individual user subscription based company, calling business contracts most part of their revenue probably misses the mark by a large margin. The fact that they do PR and damage control on reddit all the time and pretend to care about public criticism just validates this more. To continue this more it seems Proton has about 50000 firms registered to its domain https://technologychecker.io/technology/proton-mail most of which seem like small business with less than 100 employees https://www.appsruntheworld.com/customers-database/products/view/protonmail where on individual level Proton has about 100mil accounts. That doesn't look minor to me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 15 points 3 days ago (2 children) It is like saying Trump wouldn't even notice you not voting for him. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub -15 points 3 days ago (1 child) I don't argue in analogies. Trump isn't being elected. The difference is scale - there just aren't enough proton users who care about this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago* If there weren't Proton wouldn't be trying to do PR and damage control in reddit. Proton is small enough and not a large monopoly like google or microsoft is, there is more competition (which keeps shooting itself in the foot all the time but anyways...). So it can be affected by this. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] im_fine_sandy@nord.pub -15 points 3 days ago (1 child) I don't argue in analogies. Trump isn't being elected. The difference is scale - there just aren't enough proton users who care about this. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago* If there weren't Proton wouldn't be trying to do PR and damage control in reddit. Proton is small enough and not a large monopoly like google or microsoft is, there is more competition (which keeps shooting itself in the foot all the time but anyways...). So it can be affected by this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago* If there weren't Proton wouldn't be trying to do PR and damage control in reddit. Proton is small enough and not a large monopoly like google or microsoft is, there is more competition (which keeps shooting itself in the foot all the time but anyways...). So it can be affected by this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago Commence downvotes So brave. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago No no no, commence block, that's FAR more effective. permalink fedilink source parent