key95 comments on Proton users cancel subscriptions following CEO Andy Yen’s “loser thinking” remarks

You don't need your own server to have the benefit the person you're replying to is pointing out. If you control the domain, you can just point your DNS at another provider. For example, you can move your catch all inbox in Tuta to a mailbox.org plan with a catch all with a simple DNS update. Then you don't need to change your email addresses anywhere.

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[–] Seralth@piefed.seralth.com 0 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Honestly if your using tuta tho its no different then proton. Both are crap for different reasons. One has crap privacy enforcement and the other is ran by a dick head.

Seriously it baffles me that anyone thinks a german company is remotely trust worthy for security. Its a fucking joke. Any country that has a deal with five eyes should just be assumed its compromised up front. If theres no out side enforcement of security then any promise of it from the inside is worthless.

E2E encryption doesn't matter when you can't trust the actual host in the first place.

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[–] scytale@piefed.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 child)

E2E encryption doesn't matter when you can't trust the actual host in the first place.

Not referring to Tuta specifically, but isnt that the point of E2E encryption? That you have assurance even if you don’t trust the host? Unless they don’t demonstrate and publish what encryption mechanism they use of course.

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[–] Seralth@piefed.seralth.com 2 points 3 days ago

Your not entirely wrong. It's mostly the fact, that even with e2e your still relying on their word that they aren't doing something shady or do something stupid. There's no external force keeping them honest.

One is none two is one. Someone's word is good but someone's word, and another keeping them honest is better.

If your going to trust someone else it's better some form of equality in the deal. As a consumer to a corp that's basically impossible with out a legal enforcement layer.

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[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago*

I was using Tuta to mailbox as an example for this very reason: you can move your catch all inbox from Tuta to mailbox.org, since it also supports catch all. I'm trying to highlight the benefit that using a service with catch all functionality adds, which is flexibility and easy migration. It was not meant as a recommendation to use Tuta.

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[+] key95@lemmy.world -4 points 4 days ago (1 child)

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[–] CorrectAlias@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I didn't say anything about "owning the name" other than just buying a domain in general (which you'd also need to do for something self hosted). I am simply saying that using providers that allow for catch all can give you privacy while also giving you the ability to jump ship.

My primary domain, for example, is not memorable, and it does not have ease of verbal transmission. It's a string I randomly generated.

What is this endeavor? Control? Your own domain gives you control. Privacy? This is dependent on your provider, VPS, or otherwise. SMTP is generally blocked on residential IPs, so you're going to have to trust and give up control and some level or privacy somewhere. Having a domain gives you the ability to self host if you desire, and if you don't want to do that, then having a domain gives you the ability to easily change mail providers if needed, without the need to change hundreds of accounts.