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[+] -13 points 4 days ago (25 children)

And I keep saying that if stemming the bleeding is the best we can hope for, then that's how democracy fails. Vote for the slightly-better candidate, by all means, that's the best move in the here-and-now. But, unless we change the rules, it's gonna be the same best move next time, too, and the patient only has so much blood.

Morello makes a very Utilitarian argument. The trouble is that it works equally well when your choice is between Hitler, who wants to murder 5,000,000 people, and Hitler Lite, who wants to murder 4,999,995 people. It makes all the difference for those 5 people, and voting for Hitler Lite is the best move.

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  • [–] [S] 22 points 4 days ago (6 children)
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    This cartoon symbolizes one election cycle. We can argue about how many people should be depicted on the siding, but since there are 16 people on the main line, the Utilitarian argument works even if there are up to 15. And that's what's been happening: Labor got tied to the tracks in the '70s with the election of Jimmy Carter. Poor people joined them with the election of Bill Clinton. Palestine as a whole got tied to the tracks next to them in 2024. And now, they're flirting with adding trans people to the line-up. And, no, that does not obviate the fact that the Republicans are indeed worse.

    But that's beside my point. This cartoon doesn't depict the erosion of democracy and the crumbling of civil institutions. That can only go on for so long before the whole system fails.

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  • [–] 6 points 4 days ago* (1 child)

    My math is a little off, but can you remind me how many people died after 2018, again?

    I recall it was more than one. COVID alone, I think it was somewhere north of a million, in fact.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 days ago* (1 child)

    Fuck the switch, rip up the rails.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago*

    Great, when are you going to start?

    I bet you won't do shit. You just want Republicans to win so you can feel better about your own country.

    But even if fascism hell breaks loose in the US, it still wouldn't come close to the shithole that is Russia. The KGB are just Nazis with a winter coat on.

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  • [–] 9 points 4 days ago (16 children)

    Tankies are bad people. Just to let you know

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  • [–] -2 points 4 days ago (15 children)

    That's great, but my comment has nothing whatsoever to do with tankies.

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  • [–] 11 points 4 days ago (12 children)

    I don't see a meaningful difference between accelerationist types

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  • [–] 13 points 4 days ago (10 children)

    Tankies. College kidz on drugs. Russian propaganda beneficiaries. Billionaire bots. Liberal-haters.

    They put on quite a show here and in a few other places near election times. Afterwards they tend to fizzle out. Or stick to one or two comms about gaming.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 days ago (7 children)

    First, this user tells me that tankies are bad. Tankies think that the system is bad, and that its collapse is an unqualified good.

    Then, they switched to accelerationists. Accelerationists want the system to collapse hard and fast, so that people don't acclimate to poorer conditions, and get motivated to fix the system.

    Meanwhile, I'm warning that the system is going to collapse, and we need to fix it ASAP.

    Hence, my question. What the heck is they on about, now?

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  • [–] 1 point 4 days ago (5 children)

    I prefer, "inconveniently correct." I've learned from long experience on the Internet that if one is wrong, somebody will jump in and tell one all the ways. But if one is correct in an uncomfortable way, well, it short-circuits people's brains, and they just start talking nonsense and throwing insults.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 days ago (4 children)

    Lol "if someone doesn't waste their time on me, it proves I'm right"

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  • [–] -1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    Yeah, basically. People can't resist pointing it when you're wrong. When you're right, they post snarky deflections.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago* (2 children)

    You've been disqualified from anything but ire from me for a while.

    Hilarious you agreed with that though

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