Grail comments on Recruiting Republicans

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 point 5 days ago (13 children)

I'm an anti-genocide protester. I've attended a dozen anti-Israel protests in My city. I've helped plan these protests at the org meetings. You're not. You're a poser, trying to claim that whinging on the internet is a form of protest. Stolen fucking valour.

Anti-genocide protesters like Myself are concerned about Rs winning the US election because it will make our jobs harder. People aren't coming to the protests anymore because they're more concerned about Trump.

In two days, we'll find out how badly you, personally, fucked the anti-genocide protests and how badly you, personally, fucked Gazans.

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[–] potatomuncher@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 days ago (12 children)

You got bad memory? Or just bad faith arguments?

Democrats fucked Gazans. Democrats told everyone to stfu about the genocide and ignore it. I didn't.

If the genocide loving Democrats don't win bigly then that's their own fault. They will be winning seats for sure though. Just gotta wait and see how many.

I personally like to look at the silver lining in all this. The evil empire is getting destroyed from within by that orange monkey. That's a blessing for all the innocent people around the world suffering under US imperialism.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 point 5 days ago* (11 children)

Look, Mx 7 day old account. You're a journalist. You are the media. On this website, we all create the narrative together.

And you're an anti-democrat journalist posting propaganda two days before the midterms, erasing all nuance and only going after the Ds. You haven't said one single word about the Rs. Your silence speaks volumes.

You're a right wing journalist. If the outcome of the election is right wing, it's your fault. If the outcome is neoliberal centrist almost-left, it's your failure as a fascist influencer.

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[–] potatomuncher@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 days ago (10 children)

I haven't said a single word about Rs in this exchange because you and I already agree that they are horrible. Not because I like Diaper-Don and his bullcrap.

No right winger refers to their Messiah as 'orange monkey'. Only thing good coming out of his 2nd term is him destroying the neoliberal order and the empire that Ds would've kept going.

If the outcome is right wing maintaining control then it's a failure of the democrats.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 point 5 days ago* (9 children)

It's not their failure if they lose. They're paid to lose on purpose. It's their success, their win. And spreading their propaganda about how much they suck, that's doing their dirty work for them. That makes it your success too, as a right wing journalist.

The party contains bought cynics and legtist idealists. They win, the idealists force them to do good things. They lose, the cynics collect a paycheck. But you? You do this for free.

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[–] potatomuncher@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 days ago (8 children)

Of course I do it for free. I don't want money to say Free Palestine.

Nor do I want to get paid to keep reminding the world that we witnessed a genocide broadcast in 4K after being taught "Never Again" my entire childhood.

Do you make money telling lies and make excuses on behalf of the political party that funded and helped orchestrate the genocide?

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 0 points 5 days ago (7 children)

You really could be making money though, helping the Republicans win the election. You could be a grifter like Blaire White. You're already spreading right wing propaganda. If you're gonna kill Gazans anyway, you might as well get that bag.

Now I'm not as amoral as you, I can't be complicit in genocide. But you could use your lack of moral compass for profit, like Chuck Schumer.

Instead, you help him lose for free.

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[–] potatomuncher@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 days ago (6 children)

you’re gonna kill Gazans anyway

I'm not Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris. They helped carry out the genocide, not i.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 point 5 days ago (5 children)

You're a right wing journalist helping Zionists elect a fascist government to funnel more money into the IDF.

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[–] potatomuncher@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 days ago (4 children)

No, Democrats armed and supported zionists to carry out a genocide.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 point 5 days ago (3 children)

Whataboutism. Clean up your own act before you throw stones.

Cool guys like Abdulrahman are infiltrating the Dems and dragging it left. Abdulrahman would never fund Israel. But you talk like he doesn't exist, you reduce the entire party down to the cynical old timers in the ologarchs' pockets. While ignoring those cynics' very aim: to lose.

You and the DNC are walking hand in hand towards the same goal, using the same methods. You're both trying to keep idealists like Abdulrahman from making change, by ensuring he loses to the fascists.

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[–] potatomuncher@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 days ago (2 children)

There's a huge difference between what politicians say and do before they get elected and after.

I'm cheering for the guy alongside you. I hope he gets elected. I'm not putting much faith in him.

Mamdani talked a good game as well. Who'd he pick as his head of police? Cuz that's very revealing.

How many times did he go to a pro-palestine rally since getting elected? He's been finding excuses to avoid it altogether.

Dems core and establishment is firmly pro-genocide. There's only so much change he'll bring fighting them alone. I hope he wins still. Politicians have to work within that system and there's not much wiggle room if you aren't an imperialist yourself.

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[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 point 5 days ago (1 child)

He's alone because there's millions of centrists like you who won't support him, won't support people like him. What kind of lukewarm ass support was that? I've seen people get more excited about a lego building reality show than you got about Abdul! That was some weak shit!

You gotta have hope. You gotta believe in a better tomorrow or you're not going to be capable of building it. I'm a strategic anarchist because I believe in a better tomorrow. You should too.

You gotta express love, not just rage. You gotta build stuff up, not just tear it down. There's no future in directionless whinging. You can't just stand against stuff. You gotta stand for something, too.

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[–] potatomuncher@lemmy.ca 1 point 5 days ago

I don't think just about our immediate surrounding. I'm not looking for instant gratification from the political process. It'll run its course and we'll see what happens.

Step one is about to happen. I'm absolutely hoping that he wins. He'll be much better in every way than that other guy, I don't doubt that bit.

We'll see what comes after and how much he can deliver.

I got no faith in that party though. Systemic changes will require time. Repairing relationships with allies will take a lot of time. Donald broke trust and bonds that'll likely never go back to how they were and there's nothing Senator El- Syed can do to speed things up.

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