If you want the $135k person, you need to offer them a bump from where they are currently to cover the unknowns of a new job

Especially given the state of the worldwide economy right now, I can't imagine any normal situation where you'd be able to negotiate someone's salary to 15-30% less than what they're already getting without offering some pretty substantial additional perks of equivalent value to bridge the gap.

If someone tried anything like that with me I'd probably end the interview on the spot. Though I'd probably not have even accepted the interview without knowing the range

If they're gonna try and short change you whilst trying to attract you into the business, it's gonna be a whole lot worse once you're dependent on the job.