Gotta point out that the french protests, while they are in general for everyone that doesn't mean it's not extremely partisan and divided. It's just we all know Macron is absolute trash 🤷

Picture from 2026 autumn french protests. Yellowshirt 2.

Caption "this could be us, but we're too busy fighting each other instead of the corrupt system"
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[–] 1 point 1 week ago (2 children)

I think you've missed what I said entirely while going on to agree with my point with another commenter.

The system is unjust, built on violence. That is the only language it now understands.

As you, yourself, say, change has bot been effectual without a sufficient threat of violence from another group. Capitulation of the wealthy and powerful. Would you rather deal with MLK or Malcolm X? Both were necessary to change, only one is lauded as a hero and he was killed for choosing the peaceful route.

I'm not advocating for violence outright. I'm advocating for disruption. Block off roads, in fundraisers, interrupt closed door meetings that sell your parks for data centers. Make people uncomfortable, force them to notice the status quo is broken.

Historically, has violence, which is monopolized by the state and effectuated on the people through financial hardship, healthcare denials, homelessness, incarceration, police brutality, surveillance, and more, been effective at forcing change? Historically? Yes. That's an observation as opposed to romanticization.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    You are advocating for nonviolent protest. I agree. I also agree that there are lots of examples of government siding with the nonviolent side of radicals. This is historically accurate and at times the violent radicals have cooperated with nonviolent radicals to further the cause. As I stated in another post, it is important in this scenario for the nonviolent radicals not to be associated with violence.

    Change to another violent system is not really a win which has played out in several revolutionary movements.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    Malcolm X Vs MLK was a perfect example of how your assumption is baseless: MLK changed nothing. The 64 "civil rights" act was a nothing burger that lead to him continuing to protest until he was murdered. At that point, every city in the US rioted for 9 days solid, causing the 68 civil rights act to be written and passed as a matter of urgency.
    Protest does nothing unless backed by violence.

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