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[–] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yes. Agree completely.
Manipulating someone isn't always bad, or even something they wouldn't want done to them.

While being manipulative is a trick, it isn't necessarily dishonest. Being dishonest with a manipulation is immoral. That's when people don't like being manipulated. What they really don't like is being mislead or outright lied to.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago (1 child)

    No, manipulation is inherently dishonest. That's how you know it's manipulation and not just honest discourse seen in the meme.

    First definition in the American heritage dictionary states this pretty plainly, "Shrewd or devious management, especially for one's own advantage."

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