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[+] -27 points 1 week ago (47 children)

Lemmy hates centrists but we’re a better representation of the majority of the voters.

How’s the genocides doing now?

I know Biden supported Ukraine much more and I’m also thinking there was a reason why that cunt Netanyahu wanted Biden gone and Trump in.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 week ago (46 children)

    I mean no you are not. Centrism has lost every election where its been tried. You don't represent anyone. Socialism/ Social Democracy is far more popular with voters.

    How’s the genocides doing now?

    Its your genocide bruh, you own it, so you tell me.

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  • [+] -17 points 1 week ago (43 children)

    It’s worked well when the candidates hasn’t been women because America, the democrats and leftists seem to have a big problem with women in power.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 week ago (27 children)

    Just like how supporting a genocide handed the election to fascists, your blinders say more about you than they do about reality.

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  • [+] -14 points 1 week ago (26 children)

    Nice pivot from the sexism found in the left.

    Biden and Harris ran a very similar campaign and it was okay when Biden ran it but not when a woman did.

    The genocides are all worse now.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    it was okay when Biden

    People were rightfully upset with Biden while he was in office. This is revisionism.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Biden was the most progressive president since Carter.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Ok. That doesn't have any bearing on what we're talking about.

    Biden wasn't praised where Harris was panned because of their gender.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Biden got elected with a platform 99% similar to the one that Harris lost with.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago* (2 children)

    And then Oct 7th happened and the world saw what Israel was doing much clearer.

    Harris and Biden funded the genocide.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago

    “Worse” doesn’t mean that Biden didn’t kill a lot of innocent people and children. Also Biden has killed more Palestinians than Trump has. Not sure how he’s been worse.

    The problem you’re missing IS that they ran the same campaign… and WHAT happened in between those two elections? What happened, say, early October 2023 and as a result of? I’ll let you figure that one out for yourself.

    Harris would have won if she moved left of Biden, woman or not. It was very clear that’s what we needed and it’s very clear they ran away from you (the blue voter) in favor of Trump voters. Why you’d still fall for it years later is beyond me.

    Does anyone else remember Tim Walz, governor of my great home state, who is on record saying he loves Isreal btw, told JD Vance in a debate about a “preemptive strike on Iran”? Because I do.

    Hell, does anyone even remember during the state of the union Trump said he would invade Iran to “protect its sovereignty a after evil government killed a bajillion protesters” or something dumb like that and fucking ELIZABETH WARREN GAVE HIM A STANDING OVATION?!? because I remember.

    People don’t see war and genocide in terms of “bad and worse” because that’s how children think and behave. Genocide is bad and genocidal democrats don’t deserve power because you think they’re a little bit better than the genocidal republicans.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 week ago (17 children)

    Your view was the standard view in 2024/25, from corporate sources, and I think much of the population simply accepted that view, especially among liberals.

    But you've lost. And no one believes you or your sources in corporate media. Its clear that your ideology is bankrupt, so people have abandoned you.

    The hollowness and emptiness of your perspective is exactly why Hasan is ascendant, and you and your twins in corporate media are descendant.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 week ago* (16 children)

    Between views like that and the constant purity testing it’s no wonder why leftism is so deeply unpopular in America.

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    When your movement goes from 1% support to 3% it really feels that way.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    Conservative Brief?

    Get better sources bro.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago* (10 children)

    You have the nuance of a cinderblock. I'm steel manning the argument: Because even the far right recognize the ascendancy and popularity of Democratic Socialism.

    Like, I don't actually believe you believe most of the shit you say any more. No one can be both this terminally online and simultaneously this obtuse.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    The far right are obviously going to exaggerate that.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    You understand this is why you and yours have no relevancy right? This are basic ass debate-pervert tropes. These wouldn't even fly in 2001 internet debate.

    You don't like reality so you attack the source, which is practically a copy-pasta of the original pew poll.

    You are hollow. Your worldview is empty. You don't live in a verifiable, reproducible version of reality.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    Headline:

    ‘About a third of U.S. Democrats like political leaders who identify as democratic socialists’

    Or a third of a half of Americans who register as democrat or republican like socialism.

    Now Democrats have 44.4 million registered members so you’re saying 14.8 million Americans out of 350 million like socialism which is like 4.2%.

    Sorry I under estimated it at 3%.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    I mean you can twist yourself into pretzels all you like. But none of that twisting inside your mind changes the world outside of it: That's the hollowness I'm pointing out.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    I used facts and numbers for my argument and you respond with that?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    I used twisted facts and numbers for my argument demonstrated to be irrelevant and not based in reality worldview and you respond with that?

    ftfy.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    I see more feelings from you and no facts or numbers.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The fact is that Democratic Socialists have wiped the floor with "centrist" candidates from Palm Beach to Sacramento, and we're heading into what might the most extreme blue wave election since 1994, possibly ever, precisely because of people like Hasan Piker building up candidates in the primaries and killing centrism in the crib, where it deserves to die and stay dead. Worthless maggots on MSNow or MSNBC are now squealing because you've lost control of the narrative. But reality is that you did this to yourself.

    The idea that candidates should appeal to the "center" handed the country to fascism in 2024. That has now become the collective understanding. Progressivisim/ Democratic socialism is saving the country from fascism.

    Like you are arguing with yourself buddy, and its pathetic.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 week ago (13 children)

    I dislike Harris for many, many reasons and being a woman is not one of them.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 week ago (12 children)

    That may be true but add people’s disdain for Clinton in there and a pattern emerges.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    Harris and Clinton are really unlikeable people. Using Clinton is not a good example. She's a war criminal.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 week ago (10 children)

    That’s the bad thing about sexism you can spread it without even thinking you’re sexist.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    I'm aware. I'm painfully aware.

    You're using their gender to protect them when they don't need protecting from their terrible policies and governance.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    Life would be a hundred times better for Americans right now with Harris’s ‘terrible’ policies.

    The genocides in Ukraine and Palestine would be better than they are now.

    USAID would still be in existence so there would be less kids with AIDS and other preventable illnesses.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    I agree with you, but that doesn't change anything. Harris ran a bad campaign and they fucked up running Biden again initially. Everyone soured on them when it was clear Harris was going to continue funding the genocide.

    The Democratic party fucked up that election. Now we gotta make sure we hold them to their supposed morals so that they can possibly win moving forward or we elect more progressives who actually listen to their constituents instead of donors.

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  • [+] -6 points 1 week ago (6 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Platner's campaign is dead. Fetterman had a stroke. But ok.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    Both were darlings of the left.

    Leftists still defend Platner.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Leftists still defend Platner.

    Misogynist nazi-apologizers still defend Platner.

    Do not conflate those losers with the rest of the left that promptly pulled support for his campaign.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    You constantly blame all liberals for the views a minority has so why is it so bad when people do that to leftists too?

    There is a vocal group of leftists who would love to see Platner back in the race to get Susan Collins out of power to this day and they don’t care what Platner did.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    You constantly blame all liberals for the views a minority has so why is it so bad when people do that to leftists too?

    Oh do I?

    We're crafting strawman arguments now? Come on. We usually see eye to eye on many things. Don't start putting words in my mouth.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago*

    Kamala lost because of her own ads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpZ2XYEVmZU AND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqbZ46GffOo

    This is why you love her. She was just another fucking corpo shill who would make a lot of money to gun manufacturers. You yourself must have stocks in those companies. You are always defending this shit America does to poor countries like mine. You profit off our deaths, don't you, you demonic imbecile?

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  • [+] -10 points 1 week ago* (1 child)

    Registered voters are abandoning bOtH pArTiEs, now down to 28% each; independents are up to 44% of voters. That's gone up like 5% since Biden was in office, mang

    Pew research. You better call them and tell them that you disagree so that they can fix it!

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