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Josh Turek of Iowa, Democrat, comes out with one of the worst anti-trans ads yet. (news.abolish.capital)
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Josh Turek of Iowa, Democrat, comes out with one of the worst anti-trans ads yet.

Not only is it an anti-sports ad, it proposes a ban on federal funding for gender affirming care. That would hit all medicaid and medicare patients, and any ACA federally-subsidized plans as well.

Horrific.

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[–] -3 points 2 weeks ago (60 children)

We have to vote for them or it's going to be so much worse

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    So you wish for another John Fetterman.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (55 children)

    No. It'll get much worse if you do vote for genocidal fucks like this, because they'll make the rest of the Democrats more like them.

    It's two fold. When you elect a Democrat, you aren't just sending a representative to the Legislature. You're sending a party representative to the DNC, who will do their best to lobby the party itself to support what they were elected to do.

    Then Democrats in other states look at candidates like this winning and think "I gotta adopt some of their policy ideas to appeal to right-leaning voters." This, in turn, shifts the whole party structure to the right.

    I'm in Iowa and I won't vote for my own genocide.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (27 children)

    The only thing more dangerous than an enemy is a traitor.

    A transphobic republican will do what they can when their party is in power. A transphobic democrat will undermine the opposition to transphobia, and will make hurting trans people a bipartisan policy. That is much much worse.

    I hate I have to say this, but iff you're reading this, and there's a race on your ballot where you have no choice but to vote for a transphobe, pick the republican. We need to keep these traitors out of office.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

    No you just don't vote for that race. You don't vote for the Republican cuz that just tells the Democrats that you support the Republican cause. That would make them chase Republican ideals even more.

    If you find a Democratic candidate so completely abhorrent and you cannot vote for them, then vote for neither. Or vote third party if one of them exists on the ballot and it lines with your values cuz that'll be much more helpful than anything else.

    Now normally I wouldn't council any of that mind you, but this does seem like it's pretty dire in this case.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago* (3 children)

    If you vote for the Republican they'll just assume that Josh Turek didn't go far enough to the right.

    It's better to write in the Dem runner up from the primary, which is what I'm doing.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Thats also a good option assuming you can do write ins there.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 week ago (1 child)

    Iowa allows them, yeah. I think only three states restrict them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago*

    Well where I live you can only choose "declared" write ins. Which admittedly does cut down on misspellings invalidating the name. Which when I voted the other day was nice since I had the write ins name down as her nickname and they listed the official spelling there.

    Good to hear about Iowa though. That seems like the optimal strategy assuming there isn't another 3rd party that works.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    I hate I have to say this, but iff you’re reading this, and there’s a race on your ballot where you have no choice but to vote for a transphobe, pick the republican

    I would suggest leaving it blank or writing someone in, to avoid sending a mixed signal ("people liked the Republican's platform, so maybe we just need to move farther right"), however, I will admit that I'll be cheering if Turek eats shit so I do understand where you're coming from.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Please get outta blahaj zone with ts 😭

    Do not vote R under ANY circumstance I don’t care. Go vote third party at least, better a “thrown away” vote than one that helps republicans

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    There's a reason I am only saying this in this very specific circumstance. Iff, with two fs is shorthand for if and only if. Obviously under no other circumstances should anyone vote republican.

    First past the post is a terrible voting system where unfortunately the optimal choice is often voting against what you want to avoid, and this is one of those cases. A candidate who will make the opposition party turn against us is far more of a threat than a giving a single seat to the party that is already against us. A vote against him is the most effective way to keep him out of office.

    I genuinely believe its safest for us in the very specific races where the only viable candidates are transphobes. A transphobic democrat is far more dangerous than a transophobic republican.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    You can't manage three short paragraphs? Your attention span is that completely shot? If Tick Tock has warped your brain to that level perhaps you shouldn't be giving voting advice to anybody.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I mean I can, I really just don’t care enough to yk? Like why read your bs when there are other much better things out there. Time prioritization and shit

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (12 children)

    Fuck off with that nonsense. There is absolutely no scenario where voting for a Republican is a better choice, unless you are an accelerationist or MAGA.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

    I am trans. This effects me. I care about my trans siblings and their safety. A vote for a republican in this specific race is the least harmful choice for my community.

    Clean up your own party before insulting others.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

    Sure, because a Republican would be more-trans friendly. What fantasy world is this? A Republican candidate will be objectively worse for any category you can measure.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Have you seen the UK recently? Labor is doing more harm to trans people than their conservatives, because labor is the current government. That is what will happen if democrats become transphobic. Transphobia in the democrats needs to be stopped even at the cost of seats.

    Things rarely get done in the federal government unless they are bipartisan. Making transphobia bipartisan is the worst possible outcome.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    What's the difference between Hispanics voting for Trump and trans people voting for this guy? Aren't they both doing the same thing? I mean this guy wants to exterminate trans people. Is a really fair to ask any trans person to vote for them? Don't you feel that's unreasonable? No matter what your other politics are you can't expect people to respond to that argument.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    You are missing the point.

    It is simply immoral to ask someone to vote for their own destruction for your material benefit. To ask someone to vote away their human rights. To look at them and tell them that you do not care about them and their survival but that they should value yours. Thats what you are advocating.

    You can justify sacrificing the lives of Trans people if you like. However asking them to sacrifice themselves for you is simply wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    What? I just told you my point. Go back and read it.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    You are missing the point.

    It is simply immoral to ask someone to vote for their own destruction for your material benefit. To ask someone to vote away their human rights. To look at them and tell them that you do not care about them and their survival but that they should value yours. Thats what you are advocating.

    You can justify sacrificing the lives of Trans people if you like. However asking them to sacrifice themselves for you is simply wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    You really never read what someone writes do you? That was very clear. I would never tell a Trans person that they have to vote for their own extinction. I think thats evil. If you want to tell Trans people that they owe your their lives then be honest about it.

    I'm advocating for nobody.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (26 children)

    Really who are you voting for and who do you think will win?

    Do you think your life and those in Iowa, the US and around the world will be better or worse overall if he wins or his republican opponent does?

    Do you honestly think the republican winning is better?

    You can honestly say more lives will be ruined by him than his opponent?

    The time to vote for a better dem was the primaries

    Now you are stuck with bad and horrible options

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (25 children)

    I know my life will be worse if Josh Turek succeeds in pushing the rest of the Democrats to the right on trans rights; a vote for Josh Turek is a vote for Democrats to adopt anti-trans rhetoric and policies. The Party will be changed by his victory, but if he loses they'll think twice about nominating someone like him and that has an effect in 2028. Better to lose one seat than to potentially elect even more anti-trans Democrats in the future by giving them more of a foothold in the party.

    The Democrats you vote for are the Democratic Party you are voting for, and when you elect bad Democrats you get a bad party.

    Oh, forgot to say who I'm voting for: I'm writing in Zach Wahls, the pro-trans runner up in this primary. That gets recorded by the Party, just like wins and losses do, and they take it into account for future campaigns when they try to figure out what went wrong.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    I see a whole bunch of DSA and DSA-adjacent candidates winning recently because of right-wing victories.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    I think having a Republican win:

    1. Tells Democrats that Josh Turek was the wrong choice, so they don't try to emulate his campaign in other races.

    2. Ensures that Josh Turek's influence on the Democratic Party is limited-to-nonexistent, so he can't embed his beliefs into the party and pull it to the right.

    3. Gives progressives an easier chance in the next primaries, because there's no incumbent to unseat.

    The Democrats we vote for are the Democratic Party we are voting for - when we vote for Josh Turek or John Fetterman and types like them, we are making the party more like them. If Josh Turek wins this election, we'll have more Josh Tureks to vote for in 2028.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 week ago

    They are in places that are having left shifts, usually because they are already left leaning. And saying he wants a genocide is insane.

    Fact is you have two real choices because of how elections work

    Fact is if you don't push for the lesser, even going as far as to push people to not vote for them, you are actively pushing for the worse person to win

    Fact is the more dems that win, the more power the whole party gets. That means more progressives have real power to change and can sway the more right members of the party.

    Fact is anyone pushing "they are the same" and not voting are responsible for the bad caused by the right winning more and more and helping to push their Nazi agenda.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

    Delusional ml user, who probably doesn’t even live in the US trying to convince people not to vote D (and even worse, says to vote R in Iowa). What complete nonsense.

    Guess what? With more Democrats in the House and Senate, the majority leadership switches, and the more comfortable the lead, the more the DSA folks in Congress can push.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    With more transphobic Democrats in the House and Senate they won't work with the DSA to do fucking anything, they'll reach across the isle to work with Republicans to kill me.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (15 children)

    You think this guy is DSA?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Then why on earth would you think this guy, who is against everything the DSA stands for, would increase the DSA's power?

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  • [–] -1 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Do you understand how majority vs minority parties and leadership work in Congress? As much of an asshole as this guy is, he’s STILL better than a Republican in the same position.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    What does that have to do with your assertion that electing this person will increase the DSA power?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago* (4 children)

    No. That doesn't sound like an answer to the question either. Is this a bot account or something?

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    You seem to be intentionally obtuse. Break it down for us, you say don’t vote for Turek, are you saying to vote for Hinson?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Nope. Still not answering how electing this guy empowers the DSA. How odd. This bot must be broken.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Ok, I’ll answer and see if you can answer too.

    The more seats the Democrats hold across Congress, the better off the entire country will be. There are still 2 more years of a Trump presidency, and if you think this is bad, just watch what would happen if the Republicans hold on to the majority in Congress.

    DSA candidates, at various levels of elected positions nationwide, have shown great surges in popularity. Simply put, more Democrats in Congress, the more options open up to oppose the GOP regressive agenda.

    Now it’s your turn to answer. Who are you advocating for in this race?

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    If he was a DSA candidate or even a progressive that would be true. More conservative democrats who work with their Republican friends means the opposite. You are conflating two diametrically opposed things. If anything his losing would directly empower the DSA because they would hold a greater share of seats. He's being elected literally weakens, dilutes, the DSA.

    Nobody. Been very clear on that. Though it had nothing to do with this comment chain.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago*

    Worse than what? Protesters being executed in the streets? People with melanin dying in filthy concentration camps? A kleptocracy robbing the public blind? An unelected technocracy surveiling and censoring literally everything and everyone?

    A fucking MEASELS epidemic?

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