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Anarchy (quokk.au)
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[–] 16 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

All you have to do is look at shopping cart returns to know that people aren't capable of self governance.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    The shopping cart return epidemic is vastly overblown and not nearly as much of an issue as memes make it seem.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Also it is kind of a US thing while it works in europe (dunno about the rrst of the world) and if anything that just shows that people are capable of learning stuff like that qnd acting collectively

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Wait what? There is actually a thing where people don’t return shopping carts? I thought it was a metaphor or a joke. I’ve lived in the US my whole life and I’ve probably seen less than a dozen unreturned carts. Am I in a strange bubble?

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    I think it's pretty location dependent, but I agree, it's not a very big issue where I am at least. Where I am you still see them, but it's not a massive issue. It'll only be a few, if any.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Apparently, or you shop at stores where the workers are good about retrieving them. I probably see at least half a dozen stray carts every time I go to a store that has carts (fewer for smaller stores, more for larger), and I've definitely had a few roll into my car. I've lived in several different states and it seems identical everywhere. My partner works at a small grocery store and confirms that it's a constant, all-day battle to gather the carts left all over the parking lot and surrounding area.

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  • [–] [S, A] 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    What incentive do people have to return a shopping cart when they have no sense of ownership or say in the supermarket and are getting ripped off by a corporation?

    Simply because something fails under capitalism does not translate to it failing under other systems.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Because it's the right thing to do. Not for the company, but for the other people using the parking lot.

    Many people won't even take 15 seconds and a few extra steps to do something helpful for other people that doesn't directly benefit them.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 weeks ago

    You're still not getting it. Using people who live under a system that requires genocide to exist as an example of humanity in general or it's condition is just nakedly dishonest. Of course most of those people would refuse basic acts of human kindness, they've been groomed into accepting blatant human rights violations as a form of an economy. These people aren't in a vaccuum, they're influenced. They represent a facet of humanity not it's entirety.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    To be fair, the shopping cart thing is largely a problem in America where we've been conditioned to believe everyone takes care of themselves first and foremost. Compassion can be taught, but it'd take a lot longer than we have in the US before everything goes to shit. If we took the leashes off of the American population right now, we'd have maybe 40% of the people acting like the bottom picture, while the rest would quickly decimate everything trying to take as much for themselves as possible, resulting in the top picture. They're not exclusive scenarios.

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