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Metallica's cowardly silence on Palestine shows that “And Justice For All” was a hoax (www.newarab.com)
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As Antonio Gramsci argued, ruling groups maintain power partly by making their ideas seem like common sense. This helps explain the political significance of Metallica’s call for disengagement at a time when Israel’s genocide in Palestine demands urgent international attention. Hetfield’s vague agenda of “love, energy and heavy music” ultimately amounts to a refusal to stand for anything meaningful. And that refusal is itself deeply political.

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[–] 18 points 2 weeks ago* (36 children)

This is so disappointing...is it ok to still listen to their old stuff and just pretend that they broke up after Master of Puppets?

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  • [–] 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

    Personally, this situation would fall into issues I have with other bands/authors/popular figures and how I handle their material. If I own copies of their media, whether on CD or downloaded files or physical books, I will continue to listen to or read it if I do enjoy it. I will no longer purchase anything new, stream on any platform, or borrow anything from the library as a way to show my non-support.

    An example: I loved Coraline by Gaiman. That guy is a gross creep, but I already own a copy of the book and the Blu-ray, so I keep my copies and do not purchase anything I do not already own.

    Edit: fixed some grammar because I’m a dork

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Gaiman didn't do any of the real work on teh film, so feel free to enjoy it

    The Sandman is what hurts me, but again, he just wrote the words and made the story. There were lots of other people involved and they arn't creepy assholes

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    I still have disturbed on my lifting playlist, but I’ve dumped gaiman and die antwoord. Regardless, it was pirated anyways

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    What did Disturbed do?

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  • [–] 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    David Draiman (lead singer) did a photo op signing IDF missiles with a sharpie.

    In June 2024. Well into the genocide.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

    Is it actually true about gaiman though? Such a bummer if so. I love his writing.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    The accounts about Gaiman are truly reprehensible. Nauseating, even. Dude's a rapist hiding behind kink and non-traditional relationships. (Amanda Palmer is also revealed to be a predatory sociopath at best)

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah, like Soggy said, it’s really bad and he hides behind kink, which as a person who is into kink, it really grosses me out because consent is so important in that space. Any seriously problematic author or musician that is that bad, I just can’t support.

    That said, if I saw something at the thrift store by a problematic creator, I would consider purchasing it because they don’t get money for it. My favorite thrift store supports the animal rescue where I adopted my rabbits from. They have books and CDs for a dollar so I’m ok buying from them if it’s a piece of media I truly want to absorb and the money would go to a good cause.

    Paying my bunny tax

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago

    I think it's a bad idea to let later knowledge ruin music.. usually (yes there are some exceptions..don't read about the band Lostprophets...). Metallica is a band of idiots with bad selfish opinions. That doesn't mean they didn't make good art decades ago.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    Let it happen naturally: all you have to do is pay more attention to the things Hetfield and Ulrich say and do, then their music will become nauseating. Or don't and continue to enjoy them, who cares.

    Lucky for me I was a Megadeth fan and ignored Metallica over the Mustaine drama when I was a teenager, so when they went mask-off over Napster I locked in my opinion that they suck.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Mustaine is a rightwing douchebag, so its all shit

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    He sure is. I still enjoy the old Megadeth though.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I liked both but as others said, both bands have bad political opinions. I think you can still enjoy music while knowing the creators are not great people. As long as they're not murderers or rapists or something awful like that.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    I didn't say not to enjoy music if the artists are idiots, just saying you naturally won't miss the music after finding out enough that's intolerable about the artist. What is intolerable is up to you, and the opinions of others is what I meant by 'who cares', I should have finished the sentence: "... who cares what others think."

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  • [–] -4 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    i never give a shit about if an artist is a terrible person. im just listening to music

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    im just listening to music

    What you're doing is paying them to continue being a terrible person

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

    no I'm not

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    Where do you think musicians get money from?

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    their label

    on that note, are you supporting slavery by using devices with materials mined from slaves?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Yes. There is a difference in the degree of choice one has; lots of good music out there... Not so many choices for ethical electronics beyond reduce, reuse, and recycling.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    well, same how i feel about music. plenty of good music out there, i cant refuse it if its good

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