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[–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Maybe steam needs a verge of death system like new grounds. If the Game is downvoted to oblivion, delete it forever. And take their 100 $ submission fee and give it to charity or something so at least something good comes out of this sloppy mess.

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  • [–] 35 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    Review bombers would love that. The amount of times that feature would get used the way you'd hope would be dwarfed by the field day right wing trolls would have with it.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    Yeah maybe a little short sighted, you are right. But watching this also feels like a car accident.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    The solution is to immediately demand a refund on any game where you even catch a whiff of genAI. Even if it's past the usual refund terms, request one. Make it painful for Steam, and they will be much more inspired to solve the problem.

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    Yeah, down with technology! The witch hunt is on! Can we do electricity next?

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  • [–] 0 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    Not wanting to buy stuff made unethically, such a witch hunt, very regressive. Go do one.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Right, because all the electronics from factories, and electricity from non-renewable sources (the majority) is totally ethical.

    /s

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Computers aren't an optional extra, AI is. Get behind me, satan. ಠ⁠◡⁠ಠ

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    You better let the Amish know. Pretty certain they'd disagree with you. So would aboriginal tribes.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Let your mom know why you keep trying to make the same point, is your fucking brain on? Go away.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    I'm attempting to highlight the hypocrisy, in hopes it'll illuminate your own mind and expose the fact that you only hate AI because it's popular to do so. It has no more ethical concerns than any of the other technology you use. Please, do go on with the ad hominem attacks if it helps to protect your ego during this transition to self-awareness.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (2 children)

    You can probably say goodbye to things like LGBT-representation in videogames if that sort of system was implemented.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Yeah true, maybe. But I think we can still agree that we are drowning in slop nobody wants and if we don‘t filter it out now, this mess will be harder to clean up afterwards.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    There no need to delete.

    LLM slop is the next evolution to asset flips. Fundamentally the same thing.

    Steam handles this not by deleting these slops but by hiding them effectively they don't come up in results unless you search for very specific terms.

    Now here comes my controversial opinion which I hope I get downloaded significantly for: currently it costs $200 to submit a game to steam. This problem would go away if they increase that to $2,000.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    I get your idea but I don’t think this is the right approach. 2000 $ is a lot of money in some regions where it would hurt solo Indie devs most. At this point I don’t know if there is regional pricing in those areas for submitting. And for every one else: I am not saying that 2000 $ is nothing, but every one who ever worked in a studio knows how much money is burned in games and this amount would be a minor position on the bill but thats another story.

    Maybe a stricter policy about disclaiming where your assets come from would help against slop and asset flips.

    And please lets make ai opt-in everywhere. Like I get that websites like itch now have a no ai tag, but this should be active by default. I don’t want to opt out actively every time I browse.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago*

    Yes I know, that's why I said I hope I get down voted for saying it.

    But my point is, it would make a significant impact on the asset flips and LLM slop.

    I'm not even saying they should do it. Valve has the data to make better decisions than I ever could. I'm sure whatever they're doing is backed by data. Which is kind of what you said, a disclaimer that they used LLMs/machine synthesis.

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