Vote third party and, more importantly, organize your community. Get involved, don't just wait for elections to roll around.

You're the one who's living in the utopian world. I just told you, you can't fucking change it. Someone who relies on being the lesser of two evils will always eventually lose massively. That is inescapable. You will subdue your own base every single time. You cannot win without your own base. Trump won because of this. Maybe you'll beat them this time but six or eight years later he's going to win again, or whoever the new Trump is. And that's going to be how it works forever. And every single time it'll get worse and worse and worse. Your strategy is willfully choosing to lose.

The alternative is not running conservative candidates who never do anything for their base. That's the alternative. You all act like it's a monolith. That the liberal Democrats have to by some law of nature run these conservative Democrats who never do anything for the people. There's no law about that. There's no reason that has to be true. But if they choose to keep doing it they are choosing to lose. Because they're the only side that are trying to do something that is destined to fail no matter what.

This is literally the opposite of what has been happening. The Dems keep moving right, and giving up voters on the Left. Every election they scream about the Leftists voter base that is both:

• A) To small to cater to
• B) So large, as to be able to swing elections

And their strategy isn't because they can't get Leftist voters, it's because they'd rather let the Republicans win, then enact Leftist policy.

no, but like i said. there is nothing on this earth that will change my position. it’s up to the democrats to decide how painful they want the rest of the world to suffer before they are forced into the light kicking and screaming.

you do not get forward momentum by voting the lesser of two evils.

what position do the establishment democrat actually hold that would make the lesser of two evils at all a viable choice? because it sure as shit ain’t climate change, immigration, lgbtq+ protection, reigning in corporations, resisting genocide, universal healthcare, loosening racially motivated drug enforcement, breaking up the prison industrial complex, breaking up the military industrial complex, defunding the police, establishing ranked choice voting, repealing citizens united, making bribery illegal again, nor establishing term limits. so i ask you, what the fuck is left?

“the democrats will hold trump accountable!” big fucking whoop. he will probably die before the end of his fucking term, and if not the only reason the democrats will drag him through a congressional panel (but never prison!) until the day he dies, is so they can do the exact same thing trump does to avoid answering for the epstien files, distract from doing their fucking jobs, and taking corporate bribe money.

i am so fucking tired of this vote blue no matter who bullshit.

the point being that you can not “waste” your vote. the mindset of your vote being “wasted” is the propaganda from the vote blue no matter who crowd. if everyone voted for the candidate they actually wanted and didn’t worry about being “right”, or on the “winning” side, the world would be a better place. that’s the whole reason i mentioned the prisoners dilemma.

hell, not voting can be a choice and not a surrender to apathy. it’s not your job to sacrifice your morals in order to side with one ass hole over another to take advantage of the office. it’s the dnc’s job to be electable and not field shit stain fucks.