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If So Many Americans Care About Climate, Why Don’t They Vote Like It? 11.2 million. That’s the number of Americans who rank climate as a their top priority but didn’t vote in the 2024 US elections (coveringclimatenow.org)
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[–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

Hey heads up the “both sides” argument makes anyone who says it sound fantastically silly and at worse stupid.

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  • [–] 20 points 2 weeks ago

    The question was "why don't they vote like it?" I answered the question from what I've been told by multiple coworkers and family. I didn't say, "this is my opinion." In fact, I said this is not my opinion and I did vote. Just because you don't like the answer, doesn't mean a lot of people don't believe that. I think it's a terrible argument personally however, the question didn't ask my opinion, it was asking why those people don't vote like it. I simply shared what has been told directly to me by the people who refuse to vote.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    I strongly disagree. I certainly understand why this idea has risen to the forefront, but I find this mentality to be far more obtuse than attempting to flesh out the nuance of a situation. Assessing both sides of an argument is of utmost importance. Qualifying the pursuit of more accurate information as "stupid" is peak irony.

    I know, the internet is full of bots and rabble rousers. No doubt they are directed at divisive issues and engage in "both sides" messaging to cast doubt on popular sentiment and advance some propaganda. This is annoying and a real problem, but the wholesale rejection of valid observation or analysis, with reactive, myopic aphorisms is precisely the type of response that allows propaganda to continue its insidious spread.

    An evident tactic of propagandists is to flood the zone with emotional binaries. It seeds chaos, disrupts chain of thought, and invokes group selection posturing. I believe the "smart/dumb" binary to be one of the most powerful, and engaging with it, even if one thinks they are on the right "side", disrupts and obfuscates the pursuit of truth.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Most people that say both side AND still vote, almost never vote in primaries. Many don't even know what they are.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Do Democrats run fair primaries?

    Do they purposely fund the FASCIST'S campaigns against progressives and leftists in order to scare people into the "more electable candidate to help our slim margin"?

    All the DNC bots and shills come out and scream "if you vote for what you want, it's a vote for TRUMP"

    Do they sabotage primaries when actual leftists are on the ballot? what happened with Bernie again? TWICE?

    When Kamala was put in as the candidate, did we get primaries? (I will give you hers was a bit of weird situation)

    Biden basically skipped a primary for his runs against Trump.

    Republicans skipped their primary for Trump.

    We have a duopoly

    Are you SURE that we get fair primaries?

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    That's a valid point too. Most of the people who have given me "both parties suck" as a reason for not voting are not exactly the type of people who care to educate themselves on politics. I used to try to teach them but, I quickly learned they don't want to know. They just want to complain and do nothing unfortunately.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    No, it makes them sound informed. Saying that "The one party who keeps openly destroying the environment is sooooo much better than the other party who keeps openly destroying the environment" is what makes anyone who says it sound fantastically silly and at worse stupid.

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