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[–] 18 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

The worst part of the left one is the implication they have only two passwords. The "under the keyboard" part at least requires physical access and (hopefully) means its not something stupid or short like "p@ssw0rd".

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    I have yet to see a sticky note password that was anywhere near NIST compliant lol.

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

    NIST compliance is 15 characters. That's it. No stupid cycling every three months. No stupid special characters.

    Somebody finally read the XKCD comic.

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  • [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    my workplace makes us change passwords every 3 months and I don't respect them so its the same password with the same number at the end -1 because I can't be bothered. If I get hacked oh no ive dealt damage to a multi billion dollar corporation woe.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I wonder why passphrases fell out of style? If you remembered a series of random words like you were activating the freaking Winter Soldier, boom, 40+ characters!

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    If we take the EFF wordlist commonly used to generate passphrases, we have 7776 words. If we take ASCII alphanumerics and special characters we have about 92. Assuming we generate a NIST compliant password of 15 characters in length we get 92^15=2.8*10^29 of combinations. To get the same level of security (same number of combinations) using the EFF wordlist we need (log(2.8)+29)/log(7776)=29.45/3.9=7.6 around 8 words. If we assume the words are 7 characters long on average, plus the separators, we get 7*8+6=62 characters long. If we start to also include Unicode characters like other scripts or emojis (something I've recommended to others) the required number of words grows even more. I don't know about you, but I can't be bothered to type that all out every time, a password manager works for me.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 weeks ago

    Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I guess I meant for things where you need to actually memorize a password, like for the password manager.

    But yeah for 99% of cases, a backed up KeePass database with randomly generated ridiculous passwords for every little service is fantastic. 👍

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago*

    Did they ever get into style? I use them, but I don't know anyone else who does. And some sites make diceware passphrases harder to use by e.g. requiring you to add numbers, special characters or capital letters, or by banning spaces. Or by banning non-ASCII, which makes it harder to use diceware passphrases in other languagess than English.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    The “under the keyboard” part at least requires physical access

    That's fine at home. Not so great in an office, though

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  • [–] 1 point 3 weeks ago

    This is why passphrases are better than passwords. So the “Under the keyboard” can be used as password. It has 3 out of the 4 types to match complexity and plentiful for length. And so much easier ro remember. It could be also a quote from your favorite movie or book, part of a lyric of your favorite song, etc.

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