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[–] 121 points 1 year ago (17 children)

when?? after every Palestinian has starved to death? just so they can pretend to have a moral standing?

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  • [–] 96 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    At the next UN assembly. It says right there in the article.

    Basically France now recognises the State of Palestine, and will make it official at the UN assembly.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    it was rethorical... thousands more will starve by September

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Recognising the state of Palestine in over a month doesn't change the urgency to let aid reach Palestinians. Of course work on that front must be done as well, and sooner than September.

    I just don't understand your point. How does officially recognising the statehood of Palestine now or in a month affect the current starvation crisis?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I just don’t understand your point. How does officially recognising the statehood of Palestine now or in a month affect the current starvation crisis?

    That's the point, it doesn't... condemning Israel publicly, temporarily breaking economic relationship with Israel and/or urging other to so the same would (for example)

    My point is this is likely just empty talk... Imagine the major of your town saying they will increase the Fire Fighters budget in the next fiscal year as a response to your house being on fire RIGHT NOW.... do you get it now?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It doesn't, that's the point. We don't need them to recognize Palestine now or next month, we need them to address the genocide. End all support for Israel, and use UN forces to actually stop the genocide.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's still important to recognise Palestine as a state. And it doesn't delay any other action.

    It seems to me that the progress you see is not the progress you want, so you consider it pointless. But the truth is, it's still progress, and it doesn't take away from the other priorities you mention.

    So, once again, I don't understand your point.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    And it doesn’t delay any other action.

    What other actions?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What other action does this delay?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Well none because they are not taking any other action...

    I am not against the French recognizing Palestine as a State, I am against them (and the rest of the world) doing nothing about the immediate urgency that is the genocide Israel is actively conducting. Why is this so hard to understand?

    Picture this: your house is on fire NOW, your son/daughter/dog/cat is trapped inside... nobody comes to help and then you hear the Mayor saying they will increase the Fire Fighter's budget in the next fiscal year.

    I am certain you would not be against the budget increase but that really does nothing about your immediate and urgent need, does it?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Well considering your very first comment was asking "when" this was going to happen:

    Picture this: your house is on fire NOW, your son/daughter/dog/cat is trapped inside... nobody comes to help and then you hear the Mayor saying they will increase the Fire Fighter's budget

    And you respond by saying "When will you increase the budget?" Instead of saying what you actually need, then get upset when people respond to the question you actually asked instead of the statement you had in your head.

    And again, the mayor announcing an increase in the fire fighter's budget does not slow down help for your home.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    This is part of that process. France is sort of saying that they are willing to put boots on the ground to stop this, without saying exactly that.

    Because being a member state of the UN comes with perks, like the ability to request UN peace keepers.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ah well, guess they better not do it until they can invent a time machine, then.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They didn't do it, he just said they will.

    They are trying to cover their assess from the accountability of being complicit with the genocide the whole time, they are counting on people like you to let them get away with it.

    What does recognize Palestinian state mean? They'll give us what's left of the rubble in Gaza and the few ghettos they allow us to call the Palestinian territory in the West Bank?

    Is there anything proposed that will actually give Palestinians any semblance of justice?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    So one side that proves in front of cameras it will bomb entire city, use food as a war weapon, bomb multiple countries in the region for no valid reason, have a mandatory inscription, will have unlimited military aid, while the other will have no military ability, and we expect to believe this will work out?

    Sure it is a good start, but fuck you have to see a genocide for no reason to do bare minimum is insane.

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