It was just after 2 a.m. on a pitch-black Friday morning when Bernadette Greene-Placentia’s life changed. The Democratic candidate for Congressional District 8 strolled across a parking lot to repair a damaged campaign sign. It was a routine she’d followed all summer. This time, she only made it a few yards.

An attacker smashed her over the head. She blacked out. She woke up to find a strange man on top of her.

Greene-Placentia struggled to open her eyes. She felt a sharp pain below her waist. The attacker was pulling his penis out of her.

She heard him mumble something like, “-ic bitch, not a very good fuck,” which her mind filled in as “Democratic bitch,” she recalled. She wasn’t sure that was exactly what he said.

One leg was out of her jean capris. She wore brand-new tennis shoes and a campaign t-shirt. Another man came over. Greene-Placentia felt his weight nudging her left leg further apart. She began swinging her foot at him. “Not even worth it,” she heard the man say as he moved away. He wore black boots and had small feet, she recalled.

The two men left Greene-Placentia face down in the parking lot. The hatch of her silver Jeep Grand Cherokee was still open. The car was still running. She heard music.

She doesn’t remember pulling up her pants or picking herself off the asphalt parking lot. She doesn’t remember closing her Jeep’s hatch and putting her foot on the gas. She doesn’t remember pulling her car into the driveway and collapsing into her bed.

“It’s just these little tiny flashes of things that I do remember,” Greene-Placentia said in an interview with Phoenix New Times. “As much as I don’t want to remember, I’ve tried very, very hard to remember more stuff. But that’s where I’m at.”

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[+] -6 points 4 weeks ago* (25 children)

if you actually read it, you will know that i directly admit that people in trauma make bad decisions. and i struggle with the decisions she made but it would all have been chalked up to it being a shame she destroyed any chance in finding justice.

but the point is that using it to score political points, and implying that the fault lies with an entire political group, when her case is horrible, invites a right wing rally, and does the opposite of validating victims of rape.

like i said, it’s as if her story was constructed by a right wing shock jock specifically to attack her campaign. if she would have said something on a interview separated from her campaign, AND didn’t attempt to imply it was done by republicans with such weak reasoning, then it couldn’t be seen as a political cudgel.

also you didn’t stop your self from saying fuck you. you don’t get to abstract your insult and maintain you moral high horse.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 weeks ago (16 children)

    also you didn’t stop your self from saying fuck you. you don’t get to abstract your insult and maintain you moral high horse.

    I don't give a fuck. I'm already on a higher moral high horse than you because I don't defend rapists.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 weeks ago (15 children)

    and neither did i. i do not defend rapeists by pointing out the victim made terrible decisions that will cost themselves justice, especially since this seems like a targeted attack.

    that alone can make some one go “i don’t like this story”

    using it to attack political rivals cheapens all of it, and will back fire, which i don’t like.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 weeks ago (14 children)

    You should look into trauma responses, educate yourself, and do better.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago (13 children)

    you have brought nothing but unjustified ad hominem attacks, and now thought terminating cliches. you have a problem with my understanding of victim responses to harm, but you are going to have to actually deal with what i said, instead of making up your own, because i don’t get to put words in your mouth to find out

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 weeks ago (12 children)

    I don’t have to actually deal with what you said.

    You can deal with how unpopular your comments rightfully are though.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

    that is an open admission to everything i accused you of, and you fall back on to an appeal to mob rule, it’s lazy and dishonest. and quite frankly i can live with negative votes. it does not invalidate my core argument of, i don’t like this whole thing.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 weeks ago (10 children)

    You're mistaken if you think that I have an obligation to feed into your victim blaming in order to maintain some sort of integrity here.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (9 children)

    “ok”

    -velma

    oh i thought you were done, but you[‘re] back with the exact same dishonesty on repeat. hoping a slight change in venue would get a different result?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 weeks ago (6 children)

    Too bad you won't take constructive criticism about your rampant victim blaming in the same manner.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    constructive criticism? from you? which if i remember, said you didn’t even have to interact with my post at all? you assert victim blaming, not demonstrated it. it is not unreasonable to not like the fact that she made bad choices that will prevent the rapist from faceing justice. however justifiable a reasoning. and it’s also not unreasonable to not like the using of rape as a political weapon. but you were never interested in arguing about that. you invented what you needed to get what you wanted, a chance to virtue signal. and were in no way interested in clarification.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    Mmm your tears are delicious. Yes, yes, cry more.

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    did… did you just make a eric cartman quote? did you think that sounded like a mature, and good idea when you wrote it?

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    Do you think you sound mature when you blame rape victims for not doing everything perfectly?

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  • [–] 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 child)

    didn’t do that. that was what you invented to argue against. honestly you already admitted to dishonesty and no one other then us cares very much at this point. you have made it very hard for those who would have otherwise agreed with you to follow along. this is getting so bad i might start being accused of fighting a sock puppet to make my argument look good by comparison. you gave up the ghost hours ago

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

    Rape victims don't have to be perfect to be believed.

    I don't give a single fuck that you are struggling with the decisions she made.

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  • [–] -2 points 4 weeks ago* (6 children)

    i can totally believe that a rape happened. and we both agree she made bad choices, we disagree as to what point that gets difficult, but normally would not invite criticism.

    but when the platform of public announcement is through a political announcement where you implicate your rival is in some way responsible, that opens door to criticism. and justifies why my premise of “i don’t like it” is valid. it muddies the waters for victims of rape using a rape as political ammunition, and i think will back fire against her candidacy

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 weeks ago (5 children)

    we both agree she made bad choices,

    Don't put words in my mouth.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

    then make your arguments about what i am acting saying so i don’t have to guess.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

    You’re under the mistaken impression that I respect you enough to have a fruitful discussion on this topic with you.

    I don’t.

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  • [–] -1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

    so then you never had any substance, and were only looking to stir hate. you invented a person and post to hate and to virtue signal for internet points. you have not said anything respectable in any of your posts

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