Last night, while I was on the train trip from Hell, my cat found a young rabbit. My wife was home and managed to prevent the half-feral asshole from killing it in the house and put it in a quiet spot in the yard; hoping for the best.

This morning it was still breathbg.

She had to leave early but asked me to handle it. I tried giving it some water with a straw, and I didn’t see any obvious injury, but he laid there breathing hard.

So I put on my welding gloves and got a plastic grocery bag. I gently picked it up and cradled it in the bag until it stopped moving.

I am a monster. Hate me.

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[–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

What I notice is humans generally feel bad when hurting an animal, but that thought disappears when it comes in plastic wrap at the grocery store.

Humans are capable of both empathy and reason.

As humans, we all largely have a strong will to live and we can empathize with other creatures in that regard.

Reason kicks in at the grocery store. I’m not going to argue the ethics of eating meat here but humans can stand in the grocery store and understand both that they did not kill the animal wrapped in plastic, and that not buying it does not bring the animal back.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (3 children)

    The "and not buying it does not bring the animal back" is poor reasoning.
    A good Reasoner at the store would know if they and others stopped buying it the store would stop stocking it, and the farm would stop shipping them, and less animal count on the farm etc.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (2 children)

    A good Reasoner at the store would know if they and others stopped buying it the store would stop stocking it

    1. You are assuming those people don’t want to eat meat. It seems like you’re assigning them an ethical or moral value (that you possess?) that would affect their reasoning whether the meat was present or not.

    2. Meat in the US is highly subsidized and culturally relevant. Without a massive coordinated effort a boycott would not help. Unlikely in a country like the US given its size and difficulty coordinating across such a large area.

    3. You’re forgetting how absolutely wasteful most American grocery chains are. They’d throw away or mark down 100s of pounds of meat before they’d stop stocking it at all.

    Reduction in meat consumption should come through removal of subsidies, restricting where and how much land can be used for growing feed crops and, arguably most important, reducing to a point of elimination the amount of intensive factory farming of animals.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    No I'm assuming those people would have empathy for say a cow the same as a rabbit. And not reason, well I didn't kill it so it's fine.

    I realize that culturally meat is ingrained into the USA. To an extreme level of a guy once saying to me "I don't eat veggie burgers cuz I ain't no faggot” LOL

    But we were talking about reasoning. A person with good reasoning skills would know that factory farmed meat is really a life of suffering --even if they didn't kill it-- and maybe choose hunting to bring meat to the table.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    No I'm assuming those people would have empathy for say a cow the same as a rabbit.

    Not a cow, a piece of a cow.

    A person with good reasoning skills would know that factory farmed meat is really a life of suffering

    Based on what? The massive amount of suffering people are aware of for other people all around the world and do nothing about?

    I think you need to stop applying your own bias and start meeting people where they’re at.

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