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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It wasn't a reform movement, it was a failed revolution for the same reason reformism fails. They did not correctly target the state, and so the state was used to crush them. Allende and Venezuela are examples of reformism attempted, but even Venezuela relies heavily on the Bolivarian revolution to keep going.

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[–] CardboardDecoy@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You're losing me. So you brought up a revolution to compare it to reformation, and in all cases it's because the state is too powerful to reform so then... revolution is the way but only if we do it right?

Am I going crazy, is this not a really roundabout way to try and circular logic how nothing gets done until we dismantle a state first? Because then that is a whole other thing and I did not sign up for that. Just saying that's how doesn't describe how it's even feasible.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There have been many failed revolutions, yes. There have also been many successful revolutions. There have been no successful reformations of a state to represent the rising class. That's the center point, and I provided historical examples of what reform and failed revolution have in common: failing to dismantle the superstructure and create a new one. There are much longer explanations, such as Reform or Revolution and The State and Revolution, but these are just comments on Lemmy.

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