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[–] 154 points 1 month ago (18 children)

I’m still surprised how the whole Snowden scandal happened and… we kept going. Same for the Panama papers and in a slightly different way also the 2008 crisis and Covid. All moments we could have used to steer the wheel but nobody did

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  • [–] 56 points 1 month ago (11 children)

    at this point i wonder what kind of scandal would it require for people to not just keep going

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  • [–] 57 points 1 month ago

    I saw a documentary once where a wasp had a specific routine when arriving back home, and they showed the routine normally several times and then they showed the wasp doing the exact same thing after having been beheaded- no head to clean, but the wasp swiped its foreleg in the general area, then continued on the rest.

    This was given as a difference between wasps and humans, or more generally, between instinctual and considered actions.

    At first I worried a little, because I noticed how much I did on autopilot. Then I realized how much everyone does on autopilot and then I worried a lot.

    I think if we were able to continue walking around without our heads, people absolutely would.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 month ago* (1 child)

    I'm shocked that Europe and others happily saddle themselves under US surveillance fully knowing the details.

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  • [–] -5 points 1 month ago

    There hasn't really been an alternative before now, the USA was a technological superpower offering services which only existed there and to a lesser extent in China (who wants to kill the EU and NATO to make conquests easier).

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  • [+] -15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
    1. A whole lot came about from the Panama Papers, you just stopped paying attention.

    2. Very few people trust the guy who attempted to flee to China and successfully fled to Russia. For good fucking reason, too.

    3. There have also been a lot of discussions and legislatures involving the NSA and surveillance since then, though people keep voting for Trump (in part because of Russian and Chinese psyops supporting him) so not as much legislation as I'd like.

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