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[–] 54 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Oh hey great, I don't need a phone number anymore, I just need a...Google account and a credit card? That's so much worse...

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  • [–] 17 points 1 month ago (8 children)

    A Google account is required?? Well that's just dumb..

    This is a red flag.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Signal is a paid contractor for Google, Facebook, Microsoft, and others since many years.

    They openly talk about this on their own blog: https://signal.org/blog/allo/

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

    While this may be true, I don't understand what this has to do with a tool that peaches privacy requiring a tool that violates all aspects of privacy.

    EDIT: ah I believe you are saying that I never should have expected such purism in the first place.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    Hey, at least their clients are open source so you know that their chats are actually encrypted.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago* (2 children)

    their clients are open source

    Their clients are but they sell proprietary licenses, so when they proclaim that There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor', you have to take their word for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    It doesn't matter how many back doors they have on the server side. As long as the clients are open source (and end-to-end encrypted), the only thing they can tell is that two people communicated.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    Agreed. They should not have tied it into a Google account, literally ruins the whole point of being anonymous on there. I get they needed to implement some sort of easy payment method, but this isn't it.

    Only thing I could think to do is create a burner Google account, buy a Google play card in cash, and add those funds to your burner account to pay the 3 dollars.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    This plus their longstanding refusal to implement things like an official FDroid client or UnifiedPush notifications leads me to believe they're not committed to privacy.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Those are also my two biggest gripes about Signal as well. At least the Molly fork solves both of those issues, that's what I use.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    molly is no longer maintained properly. It's worse than signal as last molly version is from Jul 31 and last signal is from Sept 11.

    i would think twice about using molly as the only benefit over signal is db encryption.

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  • I'm aware they lag behind in updates, only reason I chose to use Molly was because if I recall correctly they use Google Firebase for notifications, and I use grapheneOS and don't have Google play service installed. So not sure if I would get notifications in my setup if I used signal witn no play services.

    Correct me if I'm wrong though

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