...if it is a time-bound prohibition, maybe in the order of a few weeks, so society can rethink about their consumption habits.

Indefinite prohibition, of the kind that was amended in the US constitution, denies the human desire to consume alcohol and pretend it can be legislated away. A cursory reading of the Wikipedia article on the capital-P Prohibition showed lasting effects in alcohol consumption (I guess, good in the sense that there's changes in domestic abuse patterns, for example?) and organized crime (bad, with Al Capone and people like him)

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[–] 63 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Prohibition made the problems worse though.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    Prohibition is one of the single biggest factors in the creation of organized crime at real scale. It took more than the local street gang to pull off everything that needed to be done. The American Mafia as we know it was a direct result of Prohibition.

    Alcohol consumption itself didn't change much. Speakeasies and bathtub brewers were open secrets. Cops didn't raid them (much) because where else were they gonna get their 'shine?

    In fact, my greats grandparents were bookies and bootleggers. My father told me his grandparents were pulled over with a trunk full of liquor during prohibition. Grandma said she would take care of it. Coo asked to see inside the trunk. Grandma said "Of course," popped it open, pulled out two big bottles of liquor, tucked one under each of the cop's shoulders and asked, "Is there a problem, sir?" He tipped his hat and bid them a safe trip as he climbed back into his car.

    Time-based is an interesting proposition, though. As in, for two weeks or what have you, it is simply unavailable. You either have your home stock or you don't. I can see benefits to that.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Eh? I don't think it is well taught how bad alcoholism was in the English speaking world at the turn of the century. It was relatively common for men to drink away their wages, leaving their families poor. Alcohol also increased the likelihood of domestic violence, something which was somewhat socially acceptable.

    Now, the outright ban obviously had nasty side effects including the creation of organized crime. However, I could see the argument that increased regulation and restriction in availability was justified.

    After all, they had to ban buying gin by the pint.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    If you think it isnt still common for people to drink away all of their family's meager wealth I encourage you to find a local AA chapter, call up to ask for permission, then to come and listen in quiet support.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I'm not saying it isn't possible today. What I'm saying is that it was far more common back before Prohibition.

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    But the number of saloons/taverns decreased thanks to prohibition and never rebounded, as did the amount of alcohol consumed by Americans per capita.

    Incorrect. "Never rebounded" on alcohol consumption is flat out wrong. It rose back up over the years and surpassed pre-Prohibition alcohol consumption levels during COVID.

    https://apnews.com/article/public-health-health-statistics-health-us-news-ap-top-news-f1f81ade0748410aaeb6eeab7a772bf7

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  • [–] 2 points 1 month ago

    right before COVID, actually:

    January 14, 2020

    In 1919, Congress passed the 18th Amendment, instituting the ban. It went into effect on January 17, 1920 — 100 years ago, this Friday — and lasted 13 years.

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