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How great were The Verve (feddit.uk)
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Did they ever make a bad song?

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[–] 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I recently heard a cover of 'the drugs don't work' which was almost verbatim, but with another singer. I was confused, then appalled.

Shame they got screwed over by the rolling stones over that string arrangement.

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    screwed over by the rolling stones over that string arrangement.

    wait what?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago* (3 children)

    They originally had permission from the stones for the main (string) sample in bittersweet. However stones said it went slightly longer than they agreed to, sued and won royalties I believe. Fuck the Stones.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 month ago (1 child)

    It's more on Allen Klein who was a scumbag.

    "After a lawsuit by the Rolling Stones' former manager, Allen Klein, the Verve relinquished all royalties to the Rolling Stones members Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, who were also added to the songwriting credits. In 2019, ten years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son ceded the rights to the Verve songwriter, Richard Ashcroft."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Sweet_Symphony

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  • [–] 7 points 1 month ago

    Thanks for linking that, it's worth a full read

    According to the Verve's bassist, Simon Jones, the Verve were told they would be given half the royalties, but when the single began selling well, they were instructed to relinquish 100% or remove it from sale.

    Not fair!

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    I just listened to the Rolling Stone's 1965 version:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdFQtbXAWdc (First 20 seconds at 0.5 speed), and it's not a great comparison

    That being said the Andrew Oldham 1966 cover version is a pretty strong match:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YrllfAMwHI
    (I'd also say it's artistically better, with Futurama themes)

    Edit:
    Woah, okay I'm a fan of Andrew Oldham's Orchestra. They've done a few covers of Rolling Stones songs, and they all sound way waay better than the whiney steeley sound that I find grating about the Rolling Stones

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