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Has anyone noted the pre-election uptick? (lemmy.world)
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[–] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Shit like that is how we got Trump. Stupid protest votes are not what’s needed right now.

It literally is not. Go do the math yourself - there is literally not ONE state where protest votes, even counting right wing ones, made up the difference Kamala lost by.

The problem is that people, RIGHTFULLY SO, see that there's no effect to their vote, and don't bother voting for Democrats.

You want to fix that, you clean out the Democratic Party. And the way you do that is exactly how I describe above. You want to not have to fight the leadership, you're going to continue to get the same failure you have for over 2 decades now. And that is how you got Trump.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago (1 child)

    I think you underestimate the number of people who protest voted by refusing to vote at all, which is neither an actual protest vote nor the same type of problem. Not that I think it would have been a guaranteed tipping point, but it sure would have made things a bit closer. Compound that with one of the (designed) effects of the electoral college (devaluing voter turnout in high-population states), and you widen that gap much more.

    "America will have the most lethal military" and other signalings in favor of status quo imperialism sure did kill any interest for many left wingers to vote, and anecdotally I know many of my left-proclaiming peers took that as reason to forego the polls altogether.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 month ago

    I think you underestimate the number of people who protest voted by refusing to vote at all

    So what you're actually trying to say is that people not voting is how we got Trump? Because calling not votes protest votes is just beyond confusing.

    You're not incorrect - but honestly, blaming the voters rather than the candidate seems insane. Especially since 7 million more voters HAD come out in 2020, and the Democrats avoided even the appearance of a primary in 2024.

    but it sure would have made things a bit closer

    horseshoes and grenades

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