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Anon steams up the sauna (sh.itjust.works)
submitted 2 months ago by to c/greentext@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 18 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Men* shouldn't act like hungry bears. Society at large shouldn't have to assume there's a significant risk that an an unrestrained man will act like a hungry bear. That includes in mixed saunas.

The fear of being a trapped seal is, currently, fairly well-justified. It would be nice to change that.

*: No persons should, but the problems are mostly cis men, like myself.

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  • [+] -7 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    You're leaving out some details.

    Sneaky sneaky there Mr mountain top

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

    You’re leaving out some details.

    Well, yes, I usually am, but I thought I included sufficient, relevant detail. If not, please educate me or let me know where I can educate myself; I would like to do better in the future.

    Mr mountain top

    My inference here is that you are implying I find myself morally, ethically, or spiritually superior. I do not. I've made bad decisions that have hurt people in the past. I don't have any particular insight. And, I have been very lucky, so my experience being marginalized or exploited is limited.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    A few hurt feelings are no big deal. "Oh I've hurt people" unless you own up to some egregious offense you are probably over estimating your ability to impact the world.

    The details you are leaving out is the groups of people who do the majority of the abuse. It isn't "cis men" it is people with a certain entitlement. Usually with power or cultural backgrounds unfamiliar with feminism. Let alone modern feminism.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    own up to some egregious offense

    Well, I'm not coping to it here, but I'd say it is worse than "hurt feelings".

    you are probably over estimating your ability to impact the world

    Definitely this, too. Thinking I'm more impactful than I am is a source of some of my own suffering.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 months ago

    C'mon fam. I thought we were having fun trolling. Don't make this serious. We're all the source of our own suffering. Yada-yada existential crybaby crap.

    I hope all your basic needs and family are met.

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