▲ 309 ▼ Authoritarian! (lemmy.ml) submitted 2 months ago by yogthos@lemmy.ml to c/socialism@lemmy.ml 268 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (4 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Again, Stalinism isn't a thing. What is your actual argument? The USSR was run according to Marxist-Leninist principles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) Marx was explicitly clear, the working classes should be the dictators of society when building towards communism. The USSR was run by the working classes, for the interests of the working classes. All states are inherently "authoritarian," as they are all monopolies on violence. Speaking as though a worker-state could somehow not be a monopoly on violence just eschews Marxist analysis entirely. Is your point that Marx was a "Stalinist?" This is absurd. The USSR was Marxist-Leninist, and "Stalinism" does not exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (3 children) Again, Stalinism isn't a thing. What is your actual argument? The USSR was run according to Marxist-Leninist principles. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) Marx was explicitly clear, the working classes should be the dictators of society when building towards communism. The USSR was run by the working classes, for the interests of the working classes. All states are inherently "authoritarian," as they are all monopolies on violence. Speaking as though a worker-state could somehow not be a monopoly on violence just eschews Marxist analysis entirely. Is your point that Marx was a "Stalinist?" This is absurd. The USSR was Marxist-Leninist, and "Stalinism" does not exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (3 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) Marx was explicitly clear, the working classes should be the dictators of society when building towards communism. The USSR was run by the working classes, for the interests of the working classes. All states are inherently "authoritarian," as they are all monopolies on violence. Speaking as though a worker-state could somehow not be a monopoly on violence just eschews Marxist analysis entirely. Is your point that Marx was a "Stalinist?" This is absurd. The USSR was Marxist-Leninist, and "Stalinism" does not exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children) Marx was explicitly clear, the working classes should be the dictators of society when building towards communism. The USSR was run by the working classes, for the interests of the working classes. All states are inherently "authoritarian," as they are all monopolies on violence. Speaking as though a worker-state could somehow not be a monopoly on violence just eschews Marxist analysis entirely. Is your point that Marx was a "Stalinist?" This is absurd. The USSR was Marxist-Leninist, and "Stalinism" does not exist. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies) load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 child) On paper and in practice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent load more comments (-1 replies)
[+] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip -2 points 2 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago You haven't demonstrated any actual point, you just kept yelling about "Stalinism" with no coherent backing. permalink fedilink source parent