▲ 892 ▼ David Icke (feddit.dk) submitted 2 months ago by stenAanden@feddit.dk to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works 94 comments fedilink hide all child comments There quote comes from here: https://youtu.be/bz5Hjk40FD4?t=2709
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 months ago (6 children) Oh dear god. Are we really at the point where ... David Icke is saying things that actually make sense? permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago* (3 children) He's a disinformation agent. Enough of what he says is logical, so that when he spews bullshit, people either believe the bullshit too, or disregard everything that has ever and will ever come out of his mouth. I'm on Team B. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Oh I mean yeah, his... if you try to take him seriously, you'll find that he doesn't exactly have a well evidenced, coherent world view... being extremely charitable here lol. He makes a massive amount of logical leaps to conclusions that basically just fit into something approximating a narrative that allows him to be a kind of truth messiah. Some of what he says, yeah, actually touches on real things, but he's basically British Alex Jones as a mystic... does the same kind of ... no actual due diligence, spins things off into a wild conclusion that basically just 'feels right' to them, which often involves essentially inventing or fabricating the linkages between ideas and concepts, which do not actually exist in reality... but everything is stated or implied with the same amount of certainty and conviction. Hell, I remember when they both used to collab often, back in the 00's back before I realized they were both considerably more wrong than right. When one is raised in an extremely / fanatically religious environment, one is taught cognitive dissonance, its internalized. Took me a great deal of effort to fully deconvert myself from that, but starting out raised as basically a religious nutjob makes one very, very prone to conspiricism in trying to understsnd politics and broader society. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) He actually believes it though, which is something rare in today’s performative algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago I mean his Twitter post up there is straightforward enough. But I honestly don't think that he believes everything he says about everything he says. He does spew a lot of bullshit. And I think he knows it. That's what a disinformation agent is. A celebrity designated to speak about sensationalized topics which grab everyone's interest & attention, then he throws in an occasional WTF curveball, keeping everyone busy trying to figure it out, meanwhile the government is doing all their weird corrupt shenanigans and nobody notices because everyone's trying to figure out the last weird thing David icke said. permalink fedilink source parent [–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago Don't give him too much credit. Almost anything makes more sense than MAGA. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Codandchips@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago I had to look this up to make sure it wasn't a different David Icke... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 7 points 2 months ago* (3 children) He's a disinformation agent. Enough of what he says is logical, so that when he spews bullshit, people either believe the bullshit too, or disregard everything that has ever and will ever come out of his mouth. I'm on Team B. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Oh I mean yeah, his... if you try to take him seriously, you'll find that he doesn't exactly have a well evidenced, coherent world view... being extremely charitable here lol. He makes a massive amount of logical leaps to conclusions that basically just fit into something approximating a narrative that allows him to be a kind of truth messiah. Some of what he says, yeah, actually touches on real things, but he's basically British Alex Jones as a mystic... does the same kind of ... no actual due diligence, spins things off into a wild conclusion that basically just 'feels right' to them, which often involves essentially inventing or fabricating the linkages between ideas and concepts, which do not actually exist in reality... but everything is stated or implied with the same amount of certainty and conviction. Hell, I remember when they both used to collab often, back in the 00's back before I realized they were both considerably more wrong than right. When one is raised in an extremely / fanatically religious environment, one is taught cognitive dissonance, its internalized. Took me a great deal of effort to fully deconvert myself from that, but starting out raised as basically a religious nutjob makes one very, very prone to conspiricism in trying to understsnd politics and broader society. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) He actually believes it though, which is something rare in today’s performative algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago I mean his Twitter post up there is straightforward enough. But I honestly don't think that he believes everything he says about everything he says. He does spew a lot of bullshit. And I think he knows it. That's what a disinformation agent is. A celebrity designated to speak about sensationalized topics which grab everyone's interest & attention, then he throws in an occasional WTF curveball, keeping everyone busy trying to figure it out, meanwhile the government is doing all their weird corrupt shenanigans and nobody notices because everyone's trying to figure out the last weird thing David icke said. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) Oh I mean yeah, his... if you try to take him seriously, you'll find that he doesn't exactly have a well evidenced, coherent world view... being extremely charitable here lol. He makes a massive amount of logical leaps to conclusions that basically just fit into something approximating a narrative that allows him to be a kind of truth messiah. Some of what he says, yeah, actually touches on real things, but he's basically British Alex Jones as a mystic... does the same kind of ... no actual due diligence, spins things off into a wild conclusion that basically just 'feels right' to them, which often involves essentially inventing or fabricating the linkages between ideas and concepts, which do not actually exist in reality... but everything is stated or implied with the same amount of certainty and conviction. Hell, I remember when they both used to collab often, back in the 00's back before I realized they were both considerably more wrong than right. When one is raised in an extremely / fanatically religious environment, one is taught cognitive dissonance, its internalized. Took me a great deal of effort to fully deconvert myself from that, but starting out raised as basically a religious nutjob makes one very, very prone to conspiricism in trying to understsnd politics and broader society. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 point 2 months ago (1 child) He actually believes it though, which is something rare in today’s performative algorithm. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago I mean his Twitter post up there is straightforward enough. But I honestly don't think that he believes everything he says about everything he says. He does spew a lot of bullshit. And I think he knows it. That's what a disinformation agent is. A celebrity designated to speak about sensationalized topics which grab everyone's interest & attention, then he throws in an occasional WTF curveball, keeping everyone busy trying to figure it out, meanwhile the government is doing all their weird corrupt shenanigans and nobody notices because everyone's trying to figure out the last weird thing David icke said. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today 1 point 2 months ago I mean his Twitter post up there is straightforward enough. But I honestly don't think that he believes everything he says about everything he says. He does spew a lot of bullshit. And I think he knows it. That's what a disinformation agent is. A celebrity designated to speak about sensationalized topics which grab everyone's interest & attention, then he throws in an occasional WTF curveball, keeping everyone busy trying to figure it out, meanwhile the government is doing all their weird corrupt shenanigans and nobody notices because everyone's trying to figure out the last weird thing David icke said. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago Don't give him too much credit. Almost anything makes more sense than MAGA. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Codandchips@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago I had to look this up to make sure it wasn't a different David Icke... permalink fedilink source parent