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Now that Debian is embracing AI anyone have any anti-AI distro recommendations? (feddit.online)
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Been a long time Debian user but with the recent AI decision I am planning on moving on so anyone have an anti-AI recommendations? I understand its being used in the kernel as well but are there any distros taking a full anti-AI approach to the parts of the code they control?

Since folks seem a little confused on what I am referring to here is the mailing list page regarding the use of gen ai without disclosure vote: https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2026/08/msg00360.html

Phoronix article on it: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Debian-Votes-Responsible-AI-Use

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[–] 24 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Nothing wrong with being a Luddite, the movement was originally for workers rights and not removing thousands of years of handed down artisan craft that was being industrialized. We both know technologies like this are being used to concentrate wealth. I'm personally not against AI as long as its used in moderation, but insulting those who want to boycott because they see the harms of wide scale usage is simply ignorant, much like your comparison to the Luddite movement.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 months ago (1 child)

    I'm against AI when it replaces human art, or substantially degrades quality

    I don't see code at art, and AI code sufficiently reviewed by a human isn't bad quality. Saying that as a dev myself

    AI code with sufficient review is good enough for Torvalds, good enough for me

    That being said, I hate AI websites. They all look so generic. Claude especially really has a style it uses every damn time. Web design is at least partially art, and AI sucks at it

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  • [–] 4 points 2 months ago*

    I don’t see code at art

    A lot of people see programming as "type the right instructions in order to do a job".

    But that's not what "programming" is. It's a process: take an idea, break it down to parts, translate those processes into code, then put it all together in a way that works. You can write countless variations of code that all accomplish they same task,but someone that's good at programming will do it in a way where the parts fit together elegantly and efficiently.

    I've looked at beautifully written projects and messes of sloppy illegible code the technically "work". There's a difference: one is the work of artists and the other isn't.

    Painters do the same thing when they take an idea and turn it into smears of paint on canvas. The only difference is the medium and tools.

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  • [+] -8 points 2 months ago* (2 children)

    Okay, then, Neo-Luddite/technophobe. Specifically, the people who are opposed to the technology for sake of being opposed.

    I personally believe that governments should implement an AI tax, so that the technology created with the combination of everyone's contributions actually benefits everyone. However, whether that happens or not, the technology isn't going anywhere. And it's not detectable. So being in opposition to it is pointless.

    They should oppose data centers, or specific uses of AI (such as for military purposes) but a blanket opposition to the technology itself? It's moronic.

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