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What she said. (lemmy.world)
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[–] 1 point 2 months ago (4 children)

you got any sources for any of that? Cause that sounds like an interesting read

Also something ellse Ill add is that if breeders actuallt did care about unadopted minors then they would have made a substantial push to make international adoption easier and more common. ... this push has never been substantiated thus proving to me that most breeders , and most humans to be honest, are perfectly OK with the current disgusting status quo.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago* (3 children)

    Some sources but you can find countless articles about adoption scandals. International adoption is a very murky business. https://digitalcollections.sit.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3550&context=isp_collection

    https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/jan/26/chile-stolen-children-international-adoption-sweden

    that if breeders actuallt did care about unadopted minors then they would have made a substantial push to make international adoption easier and more common

    That's not the call for adopting countries. Like how would that actually look like? The US putting pressure on third world countries to let the US adopt more of their children? That would be absolutely insane. Opening up for international adoption is 100% the call of the source country. Every country has the right to their own children first and foremost.

    I myself seriously considered adoption as an alternative to biological children because I saw adoption as a great charitable act that would give a good life to a child that otherwise would live a miserable life. Of course I would want that! But after learning there is an undersupply, it's extremely expensive and it's likely to be moral problems with the adoption itself, I decided against it. Even discounting the fact that the child may have been stolen from its original family, the mere fact there is a large undersupply means that if I adopt it just means someone else doesn't get to adopt. As I have the ability to have biological children that's what me and my partner decided on. Because who knows we may be taking a child away from a couple that couldn't have children, because of infertility or because it's a male gay couple. That's when I realised adoption is not a good and charitable act. At least not in the modern world.

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    ....Who cares about international adoption ? (also when it comes to the case of international adoption it is up to the people in each country to put their representatives in a tighter and tighter vice grip until they make it so that international adoption isnt as messy and corrupt as it currently is. OR it is up to the people of each country to set up their own grassroots , thoroughly investigative, and publicly-accountable third party international adoption organizations. If your government wwants to be complete idiots ? Then its time for you to do the governing when iit comes to that particular institution. Almost ALL cointries can be a 'source' for an adopted child. Thhe majority of wanna be-parents of all countries are guilty of allowing international adoption to become as disgusting and disordered as it is today as I havent read of any substantial population of wanna-be-parents in ANY region taking substantial actions to clean up international adoption as much as possible.)

    and why has thhere been no substantial puush to makke domestic adoption easier annd more beneficial by you breeders? Have any examples of thiis Ive missed ??....

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  • [–] 0 points 2 months ago (1 child)

    You can make both international and domestic adoption as easy as it can ever be and it won't solve the problem that there are too few kids to adopt. There are lots of people out there that want to become parents but can't, either because they are gay or because they are infertile, or simply dislike the thought of getting pregnant and giving birth. And there simply are not enough kids that need adopting. You know the vast vast majority of parents keep the kid that they birth. If we go back a century there were lots of kids being born to women who got pregnant by accident (or by rape) and to avoid shame they often hid their pregnancies and gave away their baby to an orphanage or the state after birth. In developed countries this has become rare with both abortion and single motherhood becoming more accepted. This is really something to be celebrated. Developing countries used to have lots of orphans to adopt to developed countries to fill that gap but now even developing countries are modernizing and the amount of orphans in these countries are also going down. This is an unsolvable problem. You can't enact policies that will increase the number of orphans in the world.

    You have to remember that behind every adoption is a tragedy. No one is getting pregnant just for fun and giving away their baby.

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