The health information landscape has transformed since my first pregnancy in 2012. Back then, only 9 percent of American adults used Instagram; today 50 percent do, and 37 percent use TikTok. Advice from physicians and public health agencies now competes with influencers and content creators, nearly two-thirds of whom have no listed health credentials. A majority are women, many of whom draw on their experience as parents; this matters because people often seek health information from others whose experiences resemble their own. And although 85 percent of Americans still get health information from healthcare providers, 4 in 10 adults—and more than half of women age 18 to 49—also get it from influencers or podcasters.

At the same time, a justified pushback has grown against the one-size-fits-all and sometimes paternalistic advice public health hands out, especially to pregnant women. Emily Oster’s 2013 book Expecting Better is perhaps its best-known expression. She argued that the case against drinking during pregnancy was paper-thin and patronizing and there was no good evidence that light drinking harms a baby. According to her, one or two drinks a week in the first trimester and then one drink a day thereafter was fine: “Drink like a European adult, not like a fraternity brother.” This advice, as anticipated, received backlash (which Oster defended herself against in Slate), but that didn’t stop it from also receiving a deluge of coverage and being amplified across the internet to this day. I have since wondered and worried about the impact of this and other messages contrary to public health advice, especially against the backdrop of growing skepticism of public health recommendations and the proliferation of questionable health information across social media and from influencers.

The new study found that drinking during pregnancy was more common among women who were older, college educated, and employed; this group was also least likely to binge drink. That demographic profile mirrors the woman to whom Oster’s argument speaks most directly. It resonates in part because pregnant women are routinely handed absolutes with little explanation and expected to comply, so permission to have a little leeway is a welcome relief. There aren’t any studies that assess exposure to that advice and drinking during pregnancy, so we can’t conclude that it is among the reasons drinking during pregnancy has increased. But the overlap is hard to ignore.

Medicine and public health have long communicated like a scold, especially about women’s bodies. But a lenient countermessage framed as female autonomy is no better. It, too, considers only fetal outcomes, reducing the woman to the same thing existing guidance does: a baby incubator. An empowering message isn’t one that recommends the opposite of long-standing guidance. It considers a woman’s own health, not just the baby’s, and communicates risk without shame or a heavy hand.

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[–] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Hell, the entire medical field tends to a paternalistic and shitty view of women, even when the doctors and nurses are women.

I have dealt with some of the worst fucking doctors and nurses in pain management in specific when it comes to female patients. Some of the best too, but the worst in pain management tend to be so fucking horrible and condescending to women above and beyond the already shitty way male patients are treated in that specialty.

Why the fuck would a pregnant woman believe that the condescending, smarmy doctor or nurse that's been a pain in the ass would be a trusted source? I wouldn't, and I actually know enough about the medical side of things to be able to tell when a doctor is full of shit. But nobody knows everything, so when your experience with your obgyn starts off with them preaching down to you, it breaks the trust necessary to accept advice.

And yes, I'm pointing at nurses here too. They tend to get a lot of leeway they shouldn't in regards to following a doctor's lead even when the doc is wrong, and they definitely partake in the smug party when doling out best practices. So, yeah, they're part of the problem too.

So, of course women are looking outside of mainstream medicine. Their needs are already dismissed across the board. Their pain is treated with less attention. Their illnesses get dismissed, their symptoms downplayed. Again, even when the doctor is a woman too. Now that woman that's had a shit experience is pregnant and assumes she'll get exactly the same level of care. And she's right.

Like, I lose track of how many people come to me wanting some kind of understanding of the shit their doctor, or nurses, spewed at them. I've lost track of how many times I've had to stop a doctor or nurse and explain exactly why they need to slow the fuck down and listen to whoever it is I'm with. That's the norm that breaks trust with the medical establishment. That's the norm that leads to people rejecting vaccines or thinking some random oil is going to cure their cancer.

It pisses me the fuck off.

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  • [–] [S] 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    This entire comment is spot on. I can’t tell you how mad I am at how women have been treated by the medical field as a whole.

    It took many years for my own autoimmune disease to be diagnosed and the way I was treated through those years by medical professionals was appalling.

    I completely understand why women mistrust doctors. There’s got to be a way to work towards being more understanding of women and their health issues without treating them like they’re undeserving children.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 months ago

    You get it. The establishment lies to us, and it ruins their credibility, then they wring their hands when people don't trust them when they are telling the truth, like on vaccines, or a new virus.

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